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Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by scrollaway »

tzaman wrote: post #16

Seeing how much people recommend other solutions, I've actually moved from Travis to Jenkins, and never looked back. Yes, Jenkins has its issues (crappy UX, poor/awkward docs), but where it shines is the fact it's self-hosted, so I can SSH onto the instance to debug a failing build or replay it with a modified Jenkinsfile on the fly. I'm quite proud of the current setup we have; We're hosting our app with Google's Co…

The problem with travis and the like is most do not support arbitrary builds.

Drone for example is trying to sell itself as a "jenkins replacement" but has no concept of a build triggering arbitrarily, or that isn't intrinsically linked to a git repo. It's nonsense.

Once you set up a bunch of tooling jobs on Jenkins it's very nice to be able to use it as some form of control center for a bunch of different operations. Calling it a build server is underselling it.

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by i386 »

petetnt wrote: post #11

I have been using Blue Ocean as the radiator view for our Jenkins projects for a long while now and it does look really nice and sleek. That said, currently that's pretty much the extend it can be used for. I'd say it has about ~5% feature parity with the "old" UI currently, which means that there's not much to do than just look at the pretty progress bars. Can't wait for this to progress though, the old UI of Jenkin…

Thanks for the complement. It's hard building a new UX for a tool like Jenkins. It can be difficult to pick the next thing to work on because one feature could be the killer feature for one developer but not the other. Is there anything in particular that blocks you from using it day to day?

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by tzaman »

sandGorgon wrote: post #32
tzaman wrote: post #16

Seeing how much people recommend other solutions, I've actually moved from Travis to Jenkins, and never looked back. Yes, Jenkins has its issues (crappy UX, poor/awkward docs), but where it shines is the fact it's self-hosted, so I can SSH onto the instance to debug a failing build or replay it with a modified Jenkinsfile on the fly. I'm quite proud of the current setup we have; We're hosting our app with Google's Co…

how are you deploying secrets to your kuberenetes CI pipeline ? for example on a build, you create (I'm assuming) a new namespace. it seems you are using glusterfs for your persistentvolumeclaim.. why not gce-pd ?

Juenkins' Kubernetes plugin allows to mount secrets like with usual pods so we deploy test secrets just like we normally do production ones.

As for glusterfs, our Nginx reverse proxy also has a cron job that runs letsencrypt automatic renewal once a week so it needs to be able to write those new certificates. Because we need to be able to run several reverse proxies, all with write persmissions (we run one at a time, but on deployment, there are two running to avoid downtime) we chose gluster, as gce-pd doesn't support multiple writers.

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by arekkas »

tzaman wrote: post #16

Seeing how much people recommend other solutions, I've actually moved from Travis to Jenkins, and never looked back. Yes, Jenkins has its issues (crappy UX, poor/awkward docs), but where it shines is the fact it's self-hosted, so I can SSH onto the instance to debug a failing build or replay it with a modified Jenkinsfile on the fly. I'm quite proud of the current setup we have; We're hosting our app with Google's Co…

Are you running test code in production environment? Not sure about this one

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by i386 »

stevehiehn wrote: post #12

Looks awesome really. The pipeline U.I. is similar to PIVOTAL's Concourse C.I. I wonder if each job is in a separate container?

It's easy to run the whole Pipeline or just a single stage in a Docker container and even more easy with the new Declarative Pipeline that just went into beta this week https://jenkins.io/blog/2016/12/19/declarative-pipeline-beta...

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by scrollaway »

i386 wrote: post #39

Hey there, I am the community leader for Jenkins Blue Ocean and Product Manager for the project at CloudBees. It's really great to see Jenkins users getting excited about Blue Ocean! Please let us know if there are any missing features that are blocking your team from adopting Blue Ocean. We know there are some gaps between Jenkins Classic and Blue Ocean and while we have some good ideas, we are relying on your feedb…

Some pieces of feedback on Blue Ocean, which we've used on and off but haven't been able to switch to:

- The console interface needs work. The "click on text to link to it" thing is making it very hard to select stuff. Line numbers on the left are useless for a log, timestamps would be much more useful. (Also please add ANSI color support!)

- Artifacts view is awkwardly empty. Instead of the artifact name being a link, there's a separate download button.

- I have a GH project linked to my various build-master jobs. Why is the "commit" column empty?

- Build -> Changes -> The commit column shows the commit; with Github integration it could use a link to the actual commit on GH itself.

- "Duration: A few seconds" is not helpful for builds - I can't immediately see which builds were recently triggered and when from the main view. Regression from the legacy main view.

- Bug: "Display the log in a new window" -> the log is being sent as text/html instead of text/plain

Thanks for your work.

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by gldalmaso »

i386 wrote: post #39

Hey there, I am the community leader for Jenkins Blue Ocean and Product Manager for the project at CloudBees. It's really great to see Jenkins users getting excited about Blue Ocean! Please let us know if there are any missing features that are blocking your team from adopting Blue Ocean. We know there are some gaps between Jenkins Classic and Blue Ocean and while we have some good ideas, we are relying on your feedb…

Hi, thanks for your effort in enhancing jenkins UX.

Here are some important features I believe should be looked into if not already.

- since there is a single view, searching for jobs is essential. it's hard to find jobs to favorite among hundreds

- run builds with parameters, I believe a lot of jenkins setups are heavily leveraging parameterized builds, pipeline included

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by sidcool »

The new release of GoCD, 16.12, is also filled with amazing UI improvements. It's great to see Jenkins making Pipelines as first class citizens.

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by oblio »

kodfodrasz wrote: post #38

They should rethink the deployment model instead. You cannot provision jenkins unattended without 3rd party hacks and undocumented features. Until this is fixed I recommend avoiding it, as you'll get pet servers. This is totally retrograde to the devops mindset. Now why should I not use that mindset if that proves to be productive at other parts of work?

I'm not sure I get the "provision Jenkins part". Slaves "self install" once you have a working SSH connection and the master is just a bunch of XML files.

Re: Blue Ocean

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Post by i386 »

gldalmaso wrote: post #47
i386 wrote: post #39

Hey there, I am the community leader for Jenkins Blue Ocean and Product Manager for the project at CloudBees. It's really great to see Jenkins users getting excited about Blue Ocean! Please let us know if there are any missing features that are blocking your team from adopting Blue Ocean. We know there are some gaps between Jenkins Classic and Blue Ocean and while we have some good ideas, we are relying on your feedb…

Hi, thanks for your effort in enhancing jenkins UX. Here are some important features I believe should be looked into if not already. - since there is a single view, searching for jobs is essential. it's hard to find jobs to favorite among hundreds - run builds with parameters, I believe a lot of jenkins setups are heavily leveraging parameterized builds, pipeline included

You're most welcome!

The good news is that both of those features are planned

- User would like to have a fast smart search to find jobs from the dashboard https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-38982

- User can run parametrised pipeline https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-38805

Particularly for search, I'd recommend signing up to our JIRA and watching both of those issues. You will be able to get a notification for any proposed designs (we'd love to have a discussion with you on the final solution) and when the feature ships in a beta release.

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