Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

techcrunch.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

321–330 of 623 posts

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#321

Post by hawski »

bane wrote: post #47

I kind of feel like, once you're talking publicly about things like if you are committed or not, you probably aren't and are trying to keep people from fleeing while you figure out what to do or while some long-term strategy kicks in.

On one of my previous jobs we had a video conference with the boss of our department. We did not knew what it was supposed to be about. He said that the rumors spreading that our office will be closed are not true. Nobody heard those rumors before in our office (maybe we expected this to happen in a Dillbert kind of a way). Guess what happened few months later...

Oh and this was quite accurate at the time (I'm not implying that in case of Apple): http://wiki.c2.com/?WarningSignsOfCorporateDoom

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#322

Post by jest3r1 »

m12k wrote: post #316

It's actually kind of amazing to see the discourse shift against Apple and the new MacBook Pro to the point where it seems almost self-reinforcing. Like someone turned the reality distortion field on backwards or something. I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" but with a retina display for years, and the ability to connect usb, power and external display with just a single cable is…

It's easy to explain. Price.

I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" ... how about the size and weight and price??

They removed a bunch of ports, reduced battery life and upped the price.

USD $1799 to $2799 (with touch bar). Pricing is out of reach. Especially if you live outside of the USA where exchange rate kills it completely.

I love the 13" Macbook Air, just wish they would add retina, retain the ports, AND the price point.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#323

Post by tonyjstark »

suprgeek wrote: post #152

I think this "assurance" pretty much confirms for me that Apple has internally begun to shift even more resources away from the Mac and the Macbook. The very weak nature of the response which really does not provide any specifics what-so-ever is very typical when the underlying reality matches the rumor but the guy in charge just can't say it yet. Tim Cook is Apple's Ballamer - An ops. guy, great for the bottom line…

I think you're are a bit unfair to Ballmer, recently he admitted that they were late to the game but he was pushing for hardware and was not supported by the board[1]. Not everything MS is doing is becaus Ballmer is gone but also because Ballmer prepared Microsoft for it.

[1]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-04/steve-bal...

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#324

Post by izacus »

toothbrush wrote: post #301
chendry wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a developer and spend most of my time in a terminal, usually in vim. I recently switched from OSX to Linux and have not looked back. OSX/macOS has been getting too goofy for my tastes. I spent roughly $300 (reusing my current Apple Cinema LED monitor) to build a desktop replacement for my mac pro. Can't be happier. Then I spent about $600 on a laptop (Thinkpad T460) to replace my Macbook Pro Retina. Also fantasti…

I'm curious about that keyboard, because i'm considering getting a Thinkpad T420 or T460, but the T460 keyboard looks like one of those horrible mushy and wholly unacceptable laptop keyboards to me, whereas the T420 at least seems reminiscent of the old revered Thinkpad keyboards. Can you comment?

Hmm, I have the new 2016 MBP, 2014 MBP and T460s and the keyboard on T460s beats the other two by a significant margin. I don't think it has the same feel of the older thinkpads, but it still gives a very clear feedback and give in comparison to even the 2014 MacBook one.

The 2016 MacBook keyboard is just downright horrible. You kinda get used to it but returning to others keeps reminding me that it's just worse in every regard.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#325

Post by awinder »

hollander wrote: post #270
Ar-Curunir wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a look at reddit.com/r/unixporn

I never get these screenshots of desktop backgrounds. It's background-porn. The fact that it's made on Linux and has a Linux menubar and different fonts than Windows or Mac - who cares? I've used Ubuntu since seven years at work, the mac since 17 years, Windows not anymore since seven years, unless when helping others. I would change to Linux anytime if all would just work, meaning Photoshop and other software that n…

Most of those posts have a good deal of theming setup. Usually people include just the background alone because people invariably want the source to use on their own setups :P

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#326

Post by toyg »

m12k wrote: post #316

It's actually kind of amazing to see the discourse shift against Apple and the new MacBook Pro to the point where it seems almost self-reinforcing. Like someone turned the reality distortion field on backwards or something. I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" but with a retina display for years, and the ability to connect usb, power and external display with just a single cable is…

> I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" but with a retina display for years

If they'd sold these new models as New Air, everyone would be fine; Air customers would be ecstatic and Pro customers would be interested. But they called them Pro and slapped (raised) Pro prices on them, which is basically trying to sell me shit for chocolate.

It's an utter failure of branding and marketing, which is what Apple is supposed to be the best at.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#327

Post by crottypeter »

dagw wrote: post #295
somecallitblues wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember that ctrl+c and ctrl+v didn't work across applications. I think Terminal was one of them. Couldn't copy and paste into it. Out of the box anyway.

Yea that is a 'feature'. The problem is that ctrl+c already means something else in the terminal. Many (most?) terminals map copy and paste to ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v to get around this. Of course most *nix user use the middle mouse button for copy-paste in the terminal as standard and never really notice this.

Yes.

I miss the middle-click-paste in macOS. Also the maximise behaviour in macOS is really annoying.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#328

Post by ebbv »

m12k wrote: post #316

It's actually kind of amazing to see the discourse shift against Apple and the new MacBook Pro to the point where it seems almost self-reinforcing. Like someone turned the reality distortion field on backwards or something. I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" but with a retina display for years, and the ability to connect usb, power and external display with just a single cable is…

The previous 13" rMBP was already close enough to the Air, IMHO. And MagSafe has literally saved my laptops from destruction dozens of times over the years. The TouchBar is a stupid gimmick. These new MBPs won't have the shelf life of the old ones because the specs aren't improved enough. And the battery time is reduced and the price is increased over the old ones.

They are a worse product in every way for me over my current rMBP. Literally the only advantage is they are thinner and lighter and the display has a wider color gamut. Not worth all the trade offs. The old ones already had plenty of USB ports which today are more useful than USB-C.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#329

Post by Doctor_Fegg »

novembermike wrote: post #113
gurneyHaleck wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But don't actually LIKE the mac mini. It's not something I particularly want. I do kind of want the huge cinema displays. But they're expensive. I do kind of want the cylindrical mac pro. But it's expensive. Apple's laptops are the sweet spot. I want them. The price is right. And they have performed. Tablets and touchscreens suck compared to a solid laptop. Mac minis are borderline indistinguishable from any other ma…

I don't think anyone really wants the mac mini. What I want is a stackable, modular mac desktop. On top goes the core unit, with the CPU, Ram and integrated graphics. Below that, you can attach a graphics module if you want graphics, Storage modules, expansions etc. It's very possible with today's connectors and it feels like a very Apple thing to do. They don't seem to have an interest in really pushing desktops tho…

I absolutely want a Mac mini. I want a Mac to develop software, run Adobe Illustrator, and do all the day-to-day stuff like email. I have monitors already so don't need an iMac, and the Mac Pro is more power than I need. The Mac mini is spot on.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

#330

Post by lostboys67 »

hkarthik wrote: post #6

This comes at no surprise. I predicted that at some point desktop computers used by designers and software engineers would start approaching workstation class pricing (around 4K USD or more) as laptops took over. This will reflect the depressed demand as more people are able to get what they need done via a laptop. Apple might be one of the few manufacturers able to sell desktops at a loss, and justify it since the M…

You still going to be able to build a "workstation" PC for less than apple.

And I am assuming you mean a Single i7 on consumer mother boards.

I am not sure if even the most expensive MAC pro could get near something built on say the X99-E-10G WS workstation class MB (4x SLI and 128GB Main Memory)

$x Graphics cards 128GB

Post reply on HN