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Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by FussyZeus »

enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

Our company is sticking with our current stockpile of 2012-2014 Macbooks. They have a lot of life left in them anyway, but when it comes to an office, having to reinvest in new, HUGE displays, new cabling, new laptops? Apple needs to come up with something more compelling than a stupid bar.

And agree, at home, Windows 10's unix capabilities are amazing. Apple needs to dedicate some real resources to the Mac line and turn them back from being overpriced toys and back to useful tools.

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Post by quicklyfrozen »

pdimitar wrote: post #92
linguae wrote: post #77

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Honestly I've been feeling the same way lately, not so much about iTunes but about the post-iPhone, post-Steve Jobs Apple. I've been a Mac user for over 10 years. In 2006 it felt that Apple was fully devoted to the Mac and its Mac customers. It made computers that fit the needs of a wide variety of people, from casual users to power users. Its hardware was upgradeable, even if it sometimes meant needing to unscrew a…

I've never been an Apple user but I feel you. For me the most baffling part is that a company with supposed hundreds of billions in cash reserves is just sitting on their bottom ignoring a good chunk of their users. I've heard some news that they fired a lot of QA engineers as well but I have no clue if that's true or not. It does make a lot of sense to keep a strong hold of your market even if you are struggling. Ev…

More then 90% of that cash is overseas, and Apple is not going to bring it back to the US. (Maybe at some point they'll move engineering where the cash is so they can put more of it to use.)

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by novembermike »

gurneyHaleck wrote: post #49
jrnichols wrote: post #21

the whole desktop line is in serious need of a refresh. at least some new Mac Mini units. it's been over two years now. I bought the mid-range Mac Mini, and it's identical to what's in the Store today. That whole line needs more RAM, newer CPUs, and SSD across the board. :|

But don't actually LIKE the mac mini. It's not something I particularly want. I do kind of want the huge cinema displays. But they're expensive. I do kind of want the cylindrical mac pro. But it's expensive. Apple's laptops are the sweet spot. I want them. The price is right. And they have performed. Tablets and touchscreens suck compared to a solid laptop. Mac minis are borderline indistinguishable from any other ma…

I don't think anyone really wants the mac mini. What I want is a stackable, modular mac desktop. On top goes the core unit, with the CPU, Ram and integrated graphics. Below that, you can attach a graphics module if you want graphics, Storage modules, expansions etc. It's very possible with today's connectors and it feels like a very Apple thing to do. They don't seem to have an interest in really pushing desktops though.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by ps »

untog wrote: post #101
lethargic_meat wrote: post #88

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The ram limitation, similar to the limitations on processor are Intel's fault, not Apple. Mac's latest version uses LPDDR3E which tops at 16G. For 32G you would need LPDDR4 or LPDDR4E and a processor compatible. http://fixmibug.com/if-the-macbook-pro-32-gb-of-ram-the-desi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_DDR https://ark.intel.com/products/88972/Intel-Core-i7-6920HQ-Pr...

...so why didn't Apple use them?

Because it would require the change of design as Phil supposedly stated. However attaching lightning proboscis and "revolutionising" keyboard by removing key(s) obviously is a piece of cake and a way to go.

Seriously. They do not care about RAM as Pro users clearly do and we feel betrayed. I wonder if and when will anti-touch display stubbornness vanish as it kind of did when they introduced stylus (sorry, Pencil).

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by akoster »

rbritton wrote: post #36
lisper wrote: post #29

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But you can already upgrade your hard drives through the USB interface. Nowadays that's plenty fast enough even for external SSDs. You don't really need SATA any more.

That is actually my biggest gripe with the current model Mac Pro ("trash can"). If I'm using a desktop computer, I want everything to be enclosed in a single unit as much as possible. I have and still use the previous model of Mac Pro ("cheese grater"), and I have six internal hard drives, maxed out RAM, and several PCI cards. None of that is possible with any current model Mac except maybe the RAM.

I don't own a MacPro for that reason. I ended up building a desktop PC and using it as a hackintosh (though I gave up a couple years ago and now use a 15" rMBP more often).

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by rocky1138 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #105
bane wrote: post #47

I kind of feel like, once you're talking publicly about things like if you are committed or not, you probably aren't and are trying to keep people from fleeing while you figure out what to do or while some long-term strategy kicks in.

I think the first clue might have been when they changed the company's name to remove the word "Computer."

This is also a good indicator:

“I think if you’re looking at a PC, why would you buy a PC anymore?" Tim Cook told the paper during a trip to visit Apple's flagship store in London for the debut of its powerful big-screen tablet, the new iPad Pro. "No really," he said, "why would you buy one?”

http://fortune.com/2015/11/10/apple-ceo-tim-cook-pc/

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by akoster »

protomyth wrote: post #20
nodesocket wrote: post #8

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I mean really the only component you're ever going to be able to upgrade is RAM right? Are you suggesting it should be possible to swap out CPUs in iMacs?

In the old PowerMac you could switch out the CPU. I seem to remember a clone that you could put a dual processor card in also.

A relative gifted me an old PowerMac 8600/200, which originally came with a pre-G3 PowerPC 604e CPU, but had been upgraded to a G4 by swapping out the ZIF CPU card. It definitely gave a circa 1997 machine (original OS was either MacOS 7.6 or 8.0) a new lease on life and the ability to run OSX 10.2 Jaguar, (albeit slowly and after a serious RAM and HDD upgrade).

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by jpatokal »

bane wrote: post #47

I kind of feel like, once you're talking publicly about things like if you are committed or not, you probably aren't and are trying to keep people from fleeing while you figure out what to do or while some long-term strategy kicks in.

This was a private comm internal to Apple, not a public communication.

Also, in this situation, denial is the lesser of two evils. Because if there are rumors that "X is going to be killed", and you don't squash them, that's even more suspicious.

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Post by icelancer »

enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

I am shocked how often I use my touchscreen on my Dell XPS laptop. I started off never using it, now find myself using it regularly when I'm on the go (not docked obviously).

Takes a bit of time to get acquainted, but I really enjoy it.

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