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Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by untog »

lethargic_meat wrote: post #88
sliken wrote: post #59

I'm sure 6 months ago apple would have said they are working on "great" laptops. But we ended up with half ish the battery life promised, 16GB ram max, and needing dongles to connect to monitors, mouse, cameras, or external disks.

The ram limitation, similar to the limitations on processor are Intel's fault, not Apple. Mac's latest version uses LPDDR3E which tops at 16G. For 32G you would need LPDDR4 or LPDDR4E and a processor compatible. http://fixmibug.com/if-the-macbook-pro-32-gb-of-ram-the-desi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_DDR https://ark.intel.com/products/88972/Intel-Core-i7-6920HQ-Pr...

...so why didn't Apple use them?

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by lisper »

lemming wrote: post #93
lisper wrote: post #26

What I really want is for my state (SSD, RAM, maybe the CPU, but probably not the GPU) to be easily detachable from my human interface devices (keyboard, mouse, display). I want to be able to use a desktop in one place, then unplug a small unit which contains the aforementioned state (i.e. the equivalent of a sleeping laptop but with no keyboard or display), carry that someplace else, plug it in to a different set of…

Absolutely. I actually feel like the Mac Mini form factor could be good enough for this. It's not pocket sized, but it's better than a laptop, I could happily schlep it from the office to home again. The one thing it's missing is being able to turn it into a laptop somehow when I do actually need that, i.e. when travelling.

> it's better than a laptop

Can't say I agree with that. The mini is awfully fat, and most of that space is power supply, fan, and a rotating hard drive. (Seriously, Apple, don't you know it's 2016?) So I still need a bag to carry it. I'd much rather have an MBP than a Mini. (Also, a mini can't sleep unplugged.)

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by jkahn »

enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

A few months ago I made a similar transition - to a Surface Pro 4. I'd been on Mac since 2009. Before that, Windows and Linux.

I think you sum it up well - there are some rough edges in the Windows world, but there also are in the Mac world. I find I hardly use my iPad now.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by sjwright »

carussell wrote: post #96
yakult wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would go a bit further: I want my state to be inside a seamless hardware agnostic VM, that I can access anywhere through public terminals that I only partially trust. I would have the option of either having my storage with me that I plug in, or in the cloud and I just provide 2fa. My device would have a cpu/gpu/etc befitting a mobile device, and the most barebones / untrusted terminals would just be screen/inputs/…

What is partial trust and how does it differ from full trust?

Presumably in the case of a public terminal, you would have to trust that your keyboard inputs and screen outputs weren't being recorded. But then you also have to trust that the VM container wasn't being malicious too, which the VM itself wouldn't be able to protect against...

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by CamperBob2 »

bane wrote: post #47

I kind of feel like, once you're talking publicly about things like if you are committed or not, you probably aren't and are trying to keep people from fleeing while you figure out what to do or while some long-term strategy kicks in.

I think the first clue might have been when they changed the company's name to remove the word "Computer."

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by intrasight »

bane wrote: post #47

I kind of feel like, once you're talking publicly about things like if you are committed or not, you probably aren't and are trying to keep people from fleeing while you figure out what to do or while some long-term strategy kicks in.

That is generally the historic result in business. His assurance has told me just the opposite. I would have thought that Cook would know this.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by CamperBob2 »

jasoncchild wrote: post #10
dba7dba wrote: post #5

I wish Apple never had their success with iTunes and iPhone. It was like winning lottery for them. And you know what happens when someone wins lottery. They forget about their roots and in the end, only ruin remains.

Fantastically dramatic assessment! I'm curious just what aspects of the pre-iPhone Apple were preferable?

The company's name was "Apple Computer," for one thing, and not just "Apple."

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by newman314 »

richardkmichael wrote: post #87
lisper wrote: post #26

What I really want is for my state (SSD, RAM, maybe the CPU, but probably not the GPU) to be easily detachable from my human interface devices (keyboard, mouse, display). I want to be able to use a desktop in one place, then unplug a small unit which contains the aforementioned state (i.e. the equivalent of a sleeping laptop but with no keyboard or display), carry that someplace else, plug it in to a different set of…

The OQO was mentioned elsewhere, I too wanted it for this years ago, along with a Pico projector and virtual/projection keyboard. Now that I've been disappointed by both the new MBP and the price of the current gen Google/Android phones, I've started wondering if I can spend $1000 on a new "phone" and use it for everything (with peripherals left at each site). I briefly investigated this approach just a few days and…

Check out the InFocus Kangaroo

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by tracker1 »

imagetic wrote: post #82

I personally think the iMac has been an amazing all-in-one package. It's simplicity gives it an appeal that has made it a near-perfect tool for casual users who want to avoid the quirkiness of Windows. The iMac also scales up to heavy-hitting design work and I rarely see a lot of complaints until you get to render heavy applications or try to do multi-track and high resolution video editing and motion graphics, which…

My friend really likes his, though his biggest complaint keeping him off, is he wants a matching 5K display, so he can have dual displays off his iMac, which isn't an option, and apple killed their display line.

For me, the highest end mini is almost enough, as I really don't want a built in display at all... The mac pro is too overpriced (more than it was when last refreshed) and there's no new mac pro in sight... and to be honest, I really want a mid-range "Mac" (not pro, not mini), effectively i5-i7 iMac hardware without a built in display, hell build it off an itx platform board in a fancy case, then allow the pricing to rule itself out... I mean, keep the developers happy and making apps for their iOS devices... yeah, we'll build other stuff too, but really they need to figure out that a lot of actual software developers (the people that make the stuff that makes their platforms worthwhile) aren't happy with the options available.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by taigeair »

enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

Could you elaborate on its impact on how you do development? One reason I still have a mac is because it's so developer friendly. Linux is very time-consuming to make things work with and is incompatible with various hardware. Also some mac software is great.
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