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Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by b1tr0t »

sytelus wrote: post #149
ryandrake wrote: post #85

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I dunno--like any CEO or even VP or SVP-level executive, I'm sure he can afford executive assistants at work and nannies/assistants/drivers/servants at home to take care of all the normal mundane aspects of life that suck up so much of normal people's time, getting in the way of side projects. I'd guess he has more free time than the random "3rd engineer from the left" on one of his company's projects.

No, it doesn't work that way. CEOs/VPs never had house chores as major time sink. When you are at that level, you are responsible for 1000+ employees, 100s of teams and dozens of projects. Each project and team requires at least quarterly review, funding, strategy, motivation, vision, market analysis, HR, budgeting, PR, partners and so on. A typical CEO/VP works well over 12 hours, often at least 14 hours and many wo…

Maybe some, but not all.

An old but concrete example: Andy Grove, in High Output Management, describes a fairly typical 8 to 5 day in which he works until he's tired, with level of fatigue vs level of "doneness" being the deciding factor of when he ends his day.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

tejaswiy wrote: post #41
komali2 wrote: post #35

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I've wanted to test something similar - holding up a giant "Speed Limit: 75MPH" sign when a google car drives by on these little 30mph Mountain View roads and see what happens. Probably nothing but I can't shake the comical thought of one of those little bugs rocketing to turbo mode while the dude inside is frantically slapping the big red "stop" button.

It hopefully uses it's GPS in combination with the Google mapping data for speed limits along with signage on the road. Hilarious to think about nonetheless.

UK motorways have varying speed limits communicated via road-side signage. When repairs are being made there are sandwich board style signs that say "dead slow loose chippings" [chippings being small stones] or sometimes they have a 15mph label on a similar sign.

You'd have to guarantee perfect information from road repair crews, at least, if you were going to ignore situational signage.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by haser_au »

hacker_9 wrote: post #21

Say what you will about Zuckerberg, but this is a really cool project! Steps he took: 1. Connect his home devices (lights, thermostat, doors, music player, TV, CCTV etc) to his computer, so he can turn them on and off from it and in general automate his house from his PC. 2. Add an NLP component to his computer, so he could text instructions to it and it would apply the correct automation task. This can learn prefere…

>> Calling it AI is a bit of a stretch though

Mark replied to a comment along these exact lines. Quote below;

Mark Zuckerberg: That's the thing about AI. It's sort of like magic. We only call things AI that we don't understand yet. Once we understand something, it's just math.

But if you'd asked someone 30 years if a computer system that you could talk to, that could see your friends and let them in, that could learn your listening habits and figure out when to make you toast, if that was intelligent, then most people would have said that would be AI. Now that we know how to do it, it's just math.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by hacker_9 »

haser_au wrote: post #173
hacker_9 wrote: post #21

Say what you will about Zuckerberg, but this is a really cool project! Steps he took: 1. Connect his home devices (lights, thermostat, doors, music player, TV, CCTV etc) to his computer, so he can turn them on and off from it and in general automate his house from his PC. 2. Add an NLP component to his computer, so he could text instructions to it and it would apply the correct automation task. This can learn prefere…

>> Calling it AI is a bit of a stretch though Mark replied to a comment along these exact lines. Quote below; Mark Zuckerberg: That's the thing about AI. It's sort of like magic. We only call things AI that we don't understand yet. Once we understand something, it's just math. But if you'd asked someone 30 years if a computer system that you could talk to, that could see your friends and let them in, that could learn…

And yet 30 years we could do all that with a whole lot of if statements. It would just return false positives a lot more. A couple of others have replied saying the same thing as you that this is 'AI', but it's not. As soon as you try to use it for something it wasn't programmed for, it fails. It doesn't even understand what it is doing right now. This isn't me 'moving the goalposts' either, we have literally never achieved anything close to AI. It baffles me that people think this is even remotely AI to be honest.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by mack1001 »

deadbunny wrote: post #159
mack1001 wrote: post #152

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Trust me I do. I was just trying to highlight just how successful people find time and resolve to do things which a lot of others cannot even imagine doing - like learning Mandarin or building Jarvis.

Or maybe the fact they do find the time for thing like this is why they are successful?

Cannot argue with that.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by haser_au »

hacker_9 wrote: post #175
haser_au wrote: post #173

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>> Calling it AI is a bit of a stretch though Mark replied to a comment along these exact lines. Quote below; Mark Zuckerberg: That's the thing about AI. It's sort of like magic. We only call things AI that we don't understand yet. Once we understand something, it's just math. But if you'd asked someone 30 years if a computer system that you could talk to, that could see your friends and let them in, that could learn…

And yet 30 years we could do all that with a whole lot of if statements. It would just return false positives a lot more. A couple of others have replied saying the same thing as you that this is 'AI', but it's not. As soon as you try to use it for something it wasn't programmed for, it fails. It doesn't even understand what it is doing right now. This isn't me 'moving the goalposts' either, we have literally never a…

Have a read of this; http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolu...

It's a very long read, but it will give you a much better overview of AI and the different "calibres" than I could possibly try to in a HN comment.

What Mark has used here is "Artificial Narrow Intelligence (ANI)", the first of three levels/calibres of AI. Level 2 is "Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)", otherwise known as "Human Level AI". And level 3 is "Artificial Superintelligence (ASI)" which is "“an intellect that is much smarter than the best human brains in practically every field, including scientific creativity, general wisdom and social skills.” [Quote: Nick Bostrom].

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by mynameisvlad »

hacker_9 wrote: post #175
haser_au wrote: post #173

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>> Calling it AI is a bit of a stretch though Mark replied to a comment along these exact lines. Quote below; Mark Zuckerberg: That's the thing about AI. It's sort of like magic. We only call things AI that we don't understand yet. Once we understand something, it's just math. But if you'd asked someone 30 years if a computer system that you could talk to, that could see your friends and let them in, that could learn…

And yet 30 years we could do all that with a whole lot of if statements. It would just return false positives a lot more. A couple of others have replied saying the same thing as you that this is 'AI', but it's not. As soon as you try to use it for something it wasn't programmed for, it fails. It doesn't even understand what it is doing right now. This isn't me 'moving the goalposts' either, we have literally never a…

There's a difference between a strong/general AI, which is what you call AI and a weak AI, which is what the rest of the world calls current AIs.

An AI doesn't need to do something it wasn't programmed for or understand what it's doing to count as one.

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