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Re: Building Jarvis

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Anyone setting out to do something like this will quickly see how much of a hassle it is to exfiltrate data from relevant services and your own devices. APIs and SDKs cover a lot of use-cases, and that is all great and commendable, but we don't truly own our own devices, data, or the algorithms that make them useful. I think this will continue to hamper our ability to have a truly useful 3rd party (your home in this case) orchestrate your digital life.

A worry about reading about Zuckerberg digging into this area is that anything Facebook does will likely be within their walled garden. There is certainly a glimmer of hope they'll make something on the "open" side, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

I wonder to what extent having great advances in this area by proprietary cloud services will hamper the advancement and adoption of libre alternatives.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Honest question on the difficulty of this :

>> In some ways, this challenge was easier than I expected. In fact, my running challenge (I also set out to run 365 miles in 2016) took more total time At a casual pace of 10 minutes per mile, that's around 60 hours. Does needing 60 hours to build all that sound plausible to anyone familiar with the task?

Edit: at the end he notes that "I spent about 100 hours building Jarvis", so Mark is a really slow runner :)

Re: Building Jarvis

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Honest question on the difficulty of this : >> In some ways, this challenge was easier than I expected. In fact, my running challenge (I also set out to run 365 miles in 2016) took more total time At a casual pace of 10 minutes per mile, that's around 60 hours. Does needing 60 hours to build all that sound plausible to anyone familiar with the task? Edit: at the end he notes that "I spent about 100 hours building Jar…

The grumpy snarky HN user in me says that a lot of the "I deployed a server to do X" and "I wrote code to do Y" in this blog post should actually say "A Facebook engineer provided me with direct API hooks to do X and Y", but it's anyone's guess.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Honest question on the difficulty of this : >> In some ways, this challenge was easier than I expected. In fact, my running challenge (I also set out to run 365 miles in 2016) took more total time At a casual pace of 10 minutes per mile, that's around 60 hours. Does needing 60 hours to build all that sound plausible to anyone familiar with the task? Edit: at the end he notes that "I spent about 100 hours building Jar…

In his world "finding the time" to do the running counts as part of the effort. I swim farther than that each year an see no acomplishment in such a distance.

Re: Building Jarvis

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If it's literally Zuckerberg building all this, I bet it's full of security holes (not that he's a bad dev, I wouldn't know, just that one dev can't reasonably be expected to develop a secure app at a pace even remotely quickly).

Dunno what that means, just that it would be mildly funny if someone used this fact to try to get a job at Facebook or something.

Re: Building Jarvis

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post #5

Honest question on the difficulty of this : >> In some ways, this challenge was easier than I expected. In fact, my running challenge (I also set out to run 365 miles in 2016) took more total time At a casual pace of 10 minutes per mile, that's around 60 hours. Does needing 60 hours to build all that sound plausible to anyone familiar with the task? Edit: at the end he notes that "I spent about 100 hours building Jar…

The grumpy snarky HN user in me says that a lot of the "I deployed a server to do X" and "I wrote code to do Y" in this blog post should actually say "A Facebook engineer provided me with direct API hooks to do X and Y" , but it's anyone's guess.

API hooks to what though? It doesn't seem like he's integrating with much if anything from Facebook. TBH, he seems happy enough getting his hands dirty that I would imagine he purposely did it unaided just for the satisfaction of it.

Re: Building Jarvis

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I remember when he said he'd be embarking on this challenge, and thinking he'd probably just end up shelving it.

Honestly, even though this stuff has been done before, I'm actually pretty impressed with how much he's been able to learn and achieve in that time. Seems like not all of his hacker skills have wasted away, even if some of it is in PHP :)

I think finding the time to do all this is actually far harder for someone in his position, making it even more impressive. Not particularly ground breaking, sure, but not a bad effort.

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