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Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by maxerickson »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #60
maxerickson wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't good analysis: So those people who have been the victim of politics (you used a gender-specific pronoun, now I will shun you, but I'm really doing it because I don't like you and want to hurt you but have a convenient social excuse to ostracize you and look like the good guy for doing it) often overreact and take out their anger anonymously online. People aren't getting shunned for using gendered pronouns.…

How can you say nobody is getting shunned for gender pronouns? Did read the link I posted about people getting in trouble for the word "Niggardly?" The fact is, plainly that there are SOME people who use the guise of political correctness as a power game. Sorry if you don't want to believe that, but the evidence is pretty clear. Now this doesn't invalidate all of political correctness, because the world isn't black a…

How can you say nobody is getting shunned for gender pronouns?

Do you mean how can I prove it? I can say it really easily, because I believe it. Proving it would be pretty hard (logically it's impossible). But you haven't exactly demonstrated that people are getting shunned for uttering pronouns

As far as the link, there's like 4 really not that horrible situations listed (a guy moved to a different job, a university decided to abolish its academic speech code (the opposite direction of reprimanding someone for speech), a teacher wrote some letters, unclear). It's not exactly evidence of the widespread horrors of PC shunning.

Now this doesn't invalidate all of political correctness, because the world isn't black and white. The fact is, there are bad people out there, and they are on both sides (and this is true for almost any issue), and if you cannot admit this then your tribalism is actually part of the problem.

Yes of course there are people that take things too far. But your argument is that there are so many of those people, shunning so many other people unfairly over tiny issues, that they have created a troll army on the internet. It's ludicrous.

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

unfathomable wrote: post #12
iaw wrote: post #5

Wow, this is equivalent to sending someone a mail "bomb" that doesn't explode but electrocutes them severely. I hope the offender ends up with a reasonable length prison sentence. There's a clear line, and the intentional infliction of physical harm is well beyond it.

So to be clear, you want someone to be imprisoned because they sent a tweet.

Ok so you really don't realize it wasn't just a tweet?

Seek help. There's something wrong with you. I'm serious.

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

unfathomable wrote: post #20

So precautions for preventing a death for a health condition you have are supposed to be put on everyone else? No one forced him to watch the gif. If anything it's twitters fault for autoplaying the images.

Wow! What is wrong with you?

The fault is with the person who sent that gif!!!

Seek help.

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

#65

Post by dang »

unfathomable wrote: post #20

So precautions for preventing a death for a health condition you have are supposed to be put on everyone else? No one forced him to watch the gif. If anything it's twitters fault for autoplaying the images.

We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political and ideological battle, which is an abuse of this site.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13202289 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by dang »

celticninja wrote: post #30
unfathomable wrote: post #20

So precautions for preventing a death for a health condition you have are supposed to be put on everyone else? No one forced him to watch the gif. If anything it's twitters fault for autoplaying the images.

So much stupidity here. If Twitter are responsible for autoplaying then the sender is more responsible because they sent it. But seriously can't you see that the sender knew that it could cause the receiver harm, their tweet stated that was their intent, it caused harm, they are therefore responsible for that outcome. Imagine I flew a drone into someone and they were hurt by it. I knew flying the drone I to them woul…

We banned that account for abusing HN. But you've also broken the site guidelines repeatedly in this thread, which is not ok. Please remain civil even when other people are not.

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by alexandercrohde »

maxerickson wrote: post #61
alexandercrohde wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you say nobody is getting shunned for gender pronouns? Did read the link I posted about people getting in trouble for the word "Niggardly?" The fact is, plainly that there are SOME people who use the guise of political correctness as a power game. Sorry if you don't want to believe that, but the evidence is pretty clear. Now this doesn't invalidate all of political correctness, because the world isn't black a…

How can you say nobody is getting shunned for gender pronouns? Do you mean how can I prove it? I can say it really easily, because I believe it. Proving it would be pretty hard (logically it's impossible). But you haven't exactly demonstrated that people are getting shunned for uttering pronouns As far as the link, there's like 4 really not that horrible situations listed (a guy moved to a different job, a university…

Well I can tell you I've personally had situations in my life where:

- I was told things like "You can't understand this as a white man,"

- I had a coworker get very disturbed (and possibly go to HR) because another coworker used the word "Tight ass" about me (as a joke, which I was cool with. Unclear if he thought that was anti-homosexual, or disapproved of the word ass).

- Where I went to college, an allegedly racist student was attacked and it was recommended he withdraw from university "for his own safety" over some confusion over an allegedly racist cartoon on a fridge in a common area.

- I had a coworker recently say on slack that she would "feel uncomfortable as a woman if her manager suggested that Trump isn't racist."

- During the anti-Trump marches in SF I saw a group of people attack a man standing to the side holding a pro-Trump sign.

So, therefore, yes, some people are doing one of two things:

- Getting really emotional about equality and wanting to play hero so badly that it goes to their heads in a way that makes them the bad guys.

- Ruthless people use whatever tool they can to try to win an argument.

Now maybe you're in the South, where you are surrounded by actual racists doing actual hate crimes, so I understand you may have valid personal experiences around racism. But if you want to be a good person, it's your obligation to listen to and consider my experiences.

Because the pattern I seem to keep seeing is that self-righteousness is enemy.

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by maxerickson »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #67
maxerickson wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you say nobody is getting shunned for gender pronouns? Do you mean how can I prove it? I can say it really easily, because I believe it. Proving it would be pretty hard (logically it's impossible). But you haven't exactly demonstrated that people are getting shunned for uttering pronouns As far as the link, there's like 4 really not that horrible situations listed (a guy moved to a different job, a university…

Well I can tell you I've personally had situations in my life where: - I was told things like "You can't understand this as a white man," - I had a coworker get very disturbed (and possibly go to HR) because another coworker used the word "Tight ass" about me (as a joke, which I was cool with. Unclear if he thought that was anti-homosexual, or disapproved of the word ass). - Where I went to college, an allegedly raci…

What happened to the gendered pronouns?

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by mdekkers »

unfathomable wrote: post #12
iaw wrote: post #5

Wow, this is equivalent to sending someone a mail "bomb" that doesn't explode but electrocutes them severely. I hope the offender ends up with a reasonable length prison sentence. There's a clear line, and the intentional infliction of physical harm is well beyond it.

So to be clear, you want someone to be imprisoned because they sent a tweet.

I believe that the OP wants the attacker to be sent to prison for inflicting harm, pre-meditated, and with intent to do so. that he used a tweet to do this is irrelevant, and frankly, your statement is disingenuous and asinine. But I'm sure you already know that, and are simply trolling

Re: Malicious tweet gives journalist Kurt Eichenwald an epileptic seizure

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Post by unfathomable »

dang wrote: post #65
unfathomable wrote: post #20

So precautions for preventing a death for a health condition you have are supposed to be put on everyone else? No one forced him to watch the gif. If anything it's twitters fault for autoplaying the images.

We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political and ideological battle, which is an abuse of this site. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13202289 and marked it off-topic.

So because I reply to threads I'm interested in I'm somehow using it for political battle?

Lmao

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