Did he choked to death?
Henry Heimlich has died
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Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is also some really weird stuff with his kids, where at least one of his sons and the son's wife consider him to be a total fraud. Gelman wrote about it here (including link to son's page) http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/
From the comments section: http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/#comment-325017 > Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is stranger than truth. Andrew’s next-to-last sentence links to: > “(The Heimlich manoeuvre) has never been used in Australia. Despite the claims of the extremely charismatic Dr. Heimlich, Australian resuscitation experts believe that there isn’t enough scientific evidence to support it…
This was on HN some time ago - apparently there is some sort of research that states that patting/whacking on the back was in fact as affective as Heimlich manoeuvre.
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the comments section: http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/#comment-325017 > Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is stranger than truth. Andrew’s next-to-last sentence links to: > “(The Heimlich manoeuvre) has never been used in Australia. Despite the claims of the extremely charismatic Dr. Heimlich, Australian resuscitation experts believe that there isn’t enough scientific evidence to support it…
This was on HN some time ago - apparently there is some sort of research that states that patting/whacking on the back was in fact as affective as Heimlich manoeuvre.
The general recommendation is now to start with 5 Back Blows then 5 Abdominal Thrusts (the Heimlich), repeated as necessary.
Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.org/first-aid/first-aid-choking/basics...
European Resuscitation Council: http://ercguidelines.elsevierresource.com/european-resuscita...
Australia (and New Zealand) Resuscitation Councils: http://www.nzrc.org.nz/training/ECI/anzcor-guidelines-2016-u...
In the case of Australia/New Zealand the recommendation is to do 5 Back Blows then 5 Chest Thrusts. My understanding is that it's believed to be similarly effective but has less risk of causing internal injuries.
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is also some really weird stuff with his kids, where at least one of his sons and the son's wife consider him to be a total fraud. Gelman wrote about it here (including link to son's page) http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/
From the comments section: http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/#comment-325017 > Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is stranger than truth. Andrew’s next-to-last sentence links to: > “(The Heimlich manoeuvre) has never been used in Australia. Despite the claims of the extremely charismatic Dr. Heimlich, Australian resuscitation experts believe that there isn’t enough scientific evidence to support it…
Not sure why, but here in Brazil we only see this maneuver in American movies ad TV shows, no here uses it or would even know it has a name or how to perform it.
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#15Here's an interesting fact, he used his own move for the first time earlier this year[1].
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is also some really weird stuff with his kids, where at least one of his sons and the son's wife consider him to be a total fraud. Gelman wrote about it here (including link to son's page) http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/
From the comments section: http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/#comment-325017 > Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is stranger than truth. Andrew’s next-to-last sentence links to: > “(The Heimlich manoeuvre) has never been used in Australia. Despite the claims of the extremely charismatic Dr. Heimlich, Australian resuscitation experts believe that there isn’t enough scientific evidence to support it…
Standard advice in Australia is:
> Bend the person well forward and give five back blows with the heel of your hand between their shoulder blades – checking if the blockage has been removed after each blow.
> If unsuccessful, give five chest thrusts by placing one hand in the middle of their back for support and the heel of the other hand on the lower part of their breastbone – checking if the blockage has been removed after each thrust.
From https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtrea...
Note that thrusts may be used if simpler measures fail but these are chest thrusts, not abdominal as in Heimlich, and the person should be leaning forward, not held upright.
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the comments section: http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/#comment-325017 > Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is stranger than truth. Andrew’s next-to-last sentence links to: > “(The Heimlich manoeuvre) has never been used in Australia. Despite the claims of the extremely charismatic Dr. Heimlich, Australian resuscitation experts believe that there isn’t enough scientific evidence to support it…
Standard advice in Australia is: > Bend the person well forward and give five back blows with the heel of your hand between their shoulder blades – checking if the blockage has been removed after each blow. > If unsuccessful, give five chest thrusts by placing one hand in the middle of their back for support and the heel of the other hand on the lower part of their breastbone – checking if the blockage has been remov…
In Med school here (Australia) we are specifically cautioned against using the Heimlich manoeuvre and we're told to use the above techniques
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#18The Heimlich maneuver is one of those things that's much more recent than I imagined. (Another is the bicycle, the modern design of which is only from the late 1800s, just a few decades before the automobile and airplane.)
See also: Ciabatta Bread. I always assumed it had deep historical roots in Italian culinary tradition, but turns out it was invented by some Italian baker in the 1980s who was envious of the French and their baguettes.
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#19It's weird at the very least how people care so much about the death of one person while 21,000 people die every day of hunger.
Re: Henry Heimlich has died
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is also some really weird stuff with his kids, where at least one of his sons and the son's wife consider him to be a total fraud. Gelman wrote about it here (including link to son's page) http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/
From the comments section: http://andrewgelman.com/2016/10/09/heimlich/#comment-325017 > Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is stranger than truth. Andrew’s next-to-last sentence links to: > “(The Heimlich manoeuvre) has never been used in Australia. Despite the claims of the extremely charismatic Dr. Heimlich, Australian resuscitation experts believe that there isn’t enough scientific evidence to support it…
We don't just not teach the Heimlich manoeuvre, in every first aid course I've attended, they very clearly and explicitly instruct you to not use the Heimlich.