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A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by wslh »

falcolas wrote: post #15
wslh wrote: post #12

I can only think he is joking when he says he develops software using Python. Yes, you can connect to a remote computer via SSH or use a an unofficial (and non-free) Python port. Noawadays developing software also involves using IDEs... just in case the author forgot that part.

> Noawadays developing software also involves using IDEs Assuming your definition of IDE is limited to GUI applications, and assuming you speak for everyone. Since neither is true, developing code on the terminal on a remote server is very possible and even practical.

> and assuming you speak for everyone.

The author is the one who speaks for everyone. I would like to use Xcode or Atom/Visual Studio Code.

And... by definition when you work on a remote server you are not developing on the iPad!

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by wslh »

evgen wrote: post #19
wslh wrote: post #12

I can only think he is joking when he says he develops software using Python. Yes, you can connect to a remote computer via SSH or use a an unofficial (and non-free) Python port. Noawadays developing software also involves using IDEs... just in case the author forgot that part.

Pythonista, Working Copy, Textastic. Now I have local python environment, git integration, and a fairly decent editor. Of course, if I was a complete noob I might need a full-blown IDE but it has been quite a while since I needed training wheels when writing code.

I want to develop in Haskell... give me an option... I can show you a lot of programming languages not available on the iPad.

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by new299 »

The article is interesting, I learnt about a few apps that could be valuable to me.

But what I found most worrying was the lack of acknowledgement that exclusively using cloud storage has caviates associated with it. Are we really so comfortable with, unencrypted, cloud storage now that we don't even mention the potential for warrentlsss access and other abuses?

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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new299 wrote: post #23

The article is interesting, I learnt about a few apps that could be valuable to me. But what I found most worrying was the lack of acknowledgement that exclusively using cloud storage has caviates associated with it. Are we really so comfortable with, unencrypted, cloud storage now that we don't even mention the potential for warrentlsss access and other abuses?

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Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by ar0 »

wslh wrote: post #21
falcolas wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Noawadays developing software also involves using IDEs Assuming your definition of IDE is limited to GUI applications, and assuming you speak for everyone. Since neither is true, developing code on the terminal on a remote server is very possible and even practical.

> and assuming you speak for everyone. The author is the one who speaks for everyone. I would like to use Xcode or Atom/Visual Studio Code. And... by definition when you work on a remote server you are not developing on the iPad!

> The author is the one who speaks for everyone.

No, he doesn't. He speaks of his own experiences.

In fact, he states as much very clearly in the introduction: "The Mac and the iPad can coexist in a market where customers believe one is superior to the other. I prefer working on the iPad; others like their Macs more. And that's fine[...]".

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by chairmanwow »

berntb wrote: post #17
nunez wrote: post #16

I unsuccessfully tried using the iPad as a full-fledged computer for two months. It did not work out. Much of the web still assumes that you're using a mouse. You don't realize this until you try browsing the web with the iPad. Also, using SSH,even with Panic, was not as seamless as it seemed. There was much screen refreshing. I really missed having a mouse.

>> Much of the web still assumes that you're using a mouse. Not everything is mobile friendly yet, but do you really meet many mobile un friendly web sites? Most problems I have on phone/tablet are company internal products, where they literally designed the UI before the iPhone existed. I haven't tried those 2-apps-on-the-screen things with iPad Pro. Maybe it works well enough so I could work. Maybe.

There are many, many subtle web interactions that happen on ':hover' when you are browsing the web. It can make new websites difficult to manage whenever you aren't quite sure what to do.

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by wslh »

ar0 wrote: post #25
wslh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and assuming you speak for everyone. The author is the one who speaks for everyone. I would like to use Xcode or Atom/Visual Studio Code. And... by definition when you work on a remote server you are not developing on the iPad!

> The author is the one who speaks for everyone. No, he doesn't. He speaks of his own experiences. In fact, he states as much very clearly in the introduction: "The Mac and the iPad can coexist in a market where customers believe one is superior to the other. I prefer working on the iPad; others like their Macs more. And that's fine[...]".

> He speaks of his own experiences.

His experiences only work for a few people. For example, Node.js is one the top programming languages being used now, how do you develop with Node.js in the iPad Pro? Java? C/C++? Go?

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by berntb »

chairmanwow wrote: post #26
berntb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Much of the web still assumes that you're using a mouse. Not everything is mobile friendly yet, but do you really meet many mobile un friendly web sites? Most problems I have on phone/tablet are company internal products, where they literally designed the UI before the iPhone existed. I haven't tried those 2-apps-on-the-screen things with iPad Pro. Maybe it works well enough so I could work. Maybe.

There are many, many subtle web interactions that happen on ':hover' when you are browsing the web. It can make new websites difficult to manage whenever you aren't quite sure what to do.

Of course. But my point was that most of the modern web seems to be mobile friendly or even "mobile first". (And hence not depend on effects being able to use effects like that).

Re: A Computer for Everything: One Year of iPad Pro

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Post by Tloewald »

new299 wrote: post #23

The article is interesting, I learnt about a few apps that could be valuable to me. But what I found most worrying was the lack of acknowledgement that exclusively using cloud storage has caviates associated with it. Are we really so comfortable with, unencrypted, cloud storage now that we don't even mention the potential for warrentlsss access and other abuses?

Unencrypted?
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