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Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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> Overpopulation (colonize the seas, solar system, or have a war.) [...] Stop having kids This already happens. The more affluent a country becomes, with its better healthcare, better education, and greater career opportunity, the lower its birthrate. The big crisis in 50 years will be population decline .

Let's hope so. I'm a bit reluctant to write this, but it made me worried, so here we go : I had a chat with a taxi driver in Stockholm the other day, and we talked about the situation in Somalia and that he planned to move back there as it's getting better there. He had 8 kids, but wanted another wife and 10 more kids when he became my age - 40. I mentioned that I have been married before so I have 3 kids with 2 moth…

Its all about having a lot of lottery tickets in the game theory device that is civil war. And religion is pro lottery-tickets, and infinite lottery cycles.

The horror, if you would adapt to this hellish circumstances, by speeding up the cycle, creating "specialists" for each cycle stage and survived through the hard times by reducing all that makes up human society. No arts, no compassion, no creation, no school, all of these are calories wasted, instead go full zombie and walk the earth till the cycle of strife ends.

PS: Before somebody yells racism. This behavior could be seen everywhere during world war 2. So one could claim that white racists are actually the pro-zombie equivalent found elsewhere.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Reducing aging will likely reduce the resources available to all, by reducing the rate of population decline relative to the growth.

By that logic because we have extended life expectancy with hygiene, education, medicine and global transport that we should be producing less resources per person. Lets look at food for example: https://ourworldindata.org/food-per-person/ Well that clearly isn't the case... Something subtle must be wrong with your clearly intuitive observation. I think the cost of educating and raising the next generation to the poi…

Yes, but the production is not evenly distributed among every person. Really, the people who are actually farming are getting much more productive, but because they are better able to manage resources. However, there is probably a limit on the absolute yield per acre, as an example. It may yet be double what we do now(which is double what we did in 1970), but most farmers I've talked to think that they probably won't hit the FDA's target of doubling yield/acre by 2050. Managing soil chemistry is too problematic. It is simply hard to add back enough mass to the ground as we extract in food/year.

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Adapting a suggestion that I've heard and haven't studied too closely: Find insurance companies that essentially bet that people won't die in the next N years, find very large companies of this sort or form some kind of aggregation of them, and make the case to them that if they spend a bunch of money funding the development of some treatments that work, then they will make a profit because their bets will turn out b…

These companies exist, they sell a product called life insurance...

Yes, I was referring to that. I'm just not aware of such companies doing large-scale funding of life extension research to increase profits. I suspect it could be done, just that you might need to aggregate a lot of insurance companies to make it profitable.

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That's ridiculous. There are vast chunks of land in the US that are perfectly fine to live on, it's just that nobody wants to because the good jobs aren't there (i.e. nearly everything between the coasts).

I was talking about the world view, not just the US. But you've actually backed up my point, despite there actually being large chunks of land, no one actually wants to live there, so we continue to squeeze ourselves into small urban areas.

No, I didn't back up your point. There are plenty of places that are liveable that we can start to move to if cities become too expensive.

Just because lots of people want to live in NYC and can't afford to live there doesn't mean we are in any kind of crisis.

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These companies exist, they sell a product called life insurance...

Yes, I was referring to that. I'm just not aware of such companies doing large-scale funding of life extension research to increase profits. I suspect it could be done, just that you might need to aggregate a lot of insurance companies to make it profitable.

Ah, but the other half of life insurance companies frequently sell annuities, which are bets you'll die soon enough. :)
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