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Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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Net Neutrality legislation to me is definitely attacking the symptoms, not the problems. In my experience, in places where there is competition, net neutrality is not something you need to worry about. Private doesn't even have to be a problem if competition is maintained. In Sweden there's a mix of public, privatized-minority-government-owned, co-op and private providers and competition is quite healthy.

Only on the wired side, wireless carriers in Sweden are moving closer to US standard than their neighboring countries. Finland having unlimited cap options, and Norway and Denmark at least twice the cap per price compared to Sweden. Telia just got served for going against net neutrality principles on exempting some services from their caps. But that's because Sweden has open carrier fiber network, while the wireless…

> But that's because Sweden has open carrier fiber network

The last mile isn't some nationwide open carrier network like Australia's planned NBN. In some places there are municipal open access networks, in some places it's co-ops of homeowners, but in many places it's all private networks (in every apartment I lived in in Malmö, it was all private fiber - either Telia, Tele2, Ownit, etc). But even though it was private it was better than what you can get in most US cities.

Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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One of the problems with Net Neutrality is that techies (us) and the media have both had a hard time explaining it clearly. Meanwhile those opposed have been able to come up with analogies that while false and misleading, are easily understood. What is the best way to explain the concept that can be quickly understood by those that are non-technical?

It's the electric company charging different rates depending on the brands of your appliances (even if they use the same amount of electricity). They can also charge the brands themselves for good placement on this list. And they have their own private brand, which gets the lowest tier of rates. They initially present this as a special discount, and raise the price of everything else later to compensate.

Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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One of the problems with Net Neutrality is that techies (us) and the media have both had a hard time explaining it clearly. Meanwhile those opposed have been able to come up with analogies that while false and misleading, are easily understood. What is the best way to explain the concept that can be quickly understood by those that are non-technical?

John Oliver's take from 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpbOEoRrHyU

Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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I was pretty negative when he was nominated and very pleasantly surprised and happy to be wrong about my initial concerns. I have a lot of respect for the man now, in fact.

If he ran for president in 4 years he would have my vote. So few politicians realize that they are supposed to be working for the people, not the mega corps.

I hadn't thought about this. He might bring a refreshing change. Sure did to the FCC.

Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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"If you want the Internet to continue working exactly as it has since it was created, a fair and level playing field for both Google and Grandma, then you're in favor of Net Neutrality. If instead you want the telecom natural monopolies to take more control of the Internet and change how it works to bias whoever can pay them more, then you're against Net Neutrality."

The problem with this is you aren't really explaining why there needs to be a rule. Which is actually the biggest problem with getting net neutrality implemented. It's sort of a solution in search of a problem. There hasn't been many largescale violations of it even when violations were legal. Comcast blocking bittorrent is the only clearly bad example of a net neutrality violation I can think of. AT&T zero rating Di…

True, which is why I intentionally framed the second line as "take more control" and "change how it works", implying a change from the current status quo. Maybe that's too subtle though.

Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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Until they want to click on a Facebook news article (or a Instagram image in Twitter or a GroupOn link in GMail) and Access Denied message.

Which will accelerate the move Facebook, Twitter, etc are already making to rehost all that content on their own servers to provide an "integrated experience" for their users.

True, but turning the internet into a series of homogeneous "integrated experiences" isn't a good thing.

Re: Tom Wheeler Resigns from the FCC

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PSA: if you realize that reality "puts you in a bad position", take that as a hint to reconsider your position.

Yeah, you should just roll over and die so Time Warner/Comcast/Viacom/etc... bottom line isn't threatened in any way no matter how lousy and overpriced their product is. Geez, the nerve of some people.

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