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Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

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Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#12

"On my first week, me and the PO had a disagreement during a Scrum Grooming. It wasn’t a big deal for me but it must have been a big deal for her." Can you elaborate on this? What was the disagreement?

I would rather not make it explicit since it would provide enough information for any colleagues of mine reading HN to connect the dots and be 100% sure who I am.

I was pressured to do something during that meeting, I refused with the argument that it wouldn't benefit any of us and I explained why. The person kept asking. I kept refusing. It was uncomfortable.

I know I've handled that particular situation in a bad way. I could just have done it even if it meant trouble in the future but I took a stance out of professionalism. It was a mistake, no doubt.

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#13
Have you tried talking to her? Explaining the situation from your perspective, and just trying to let her know that you want to clear the air with her?

I think opening up to her about your worries and feelings can help you both move forward and make your work environment more friendly.

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#14

Leaving is always an option. Recognise that she is empowered by the organisation and you are not. Therefore, in your position, you will generally have to comply with what she wishes even if you feel it is wrong. If you want to tough it out, I have a plan for you. Firstly, accept that your 'zone of influence' within the organisation is small. There are things that you can control and things that you can't control, and…

This should be at the top

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#15
What I didn't do in your situation - should have done - was to stick up for myself. Now, "sticking up" can take several forms, and the trick is to do it appropriately.

If you're too gentle, the other party might not understand that you have concerns, might not respect them as important, or might be able to pretend not to know about them.

If you're too emphatic, you risk exceeding the bounds of professionalism yourself.

Do stand up for yourself. Don't bully her.

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#17
I'm sorry you have to deal with being harassed and find your self in an uncomfortable environment daily. I have dealt with this kind of behavior in the past working for several large companies, and as a quiet person that likes to keep to myself I have always had problems dealing with power dynamics. You have a few options.

1. Find a new Job then quit. This may sound like hard advice to take, but if you are in a position and you feel like the structure of the company creates an environment were a person being victimized has no recourse, do you really want to work there anyway? It's always hard to quit a job but finding a new job first will make it much easier, and it will be easier to find a new job now that you are currently employed and have experience. ( I've done this )

2. Find a new job and then talk to HR. If HR does not act to stop the harassment then you can threaten to quit. If you come under retaliation then you can quit. Be sure you have an actual job offer before you threaten to quit, employers will often taken you up on that threat.

3. Talk to the person in a personal way. Explain that you want to be friends and explain how their actions are negatively impacting you. I've found that many people play power dynamics games in an unconscious/impersonal way. They either don't know that they are doing anything to distress you or largely consider it "part of the game". In any case when rational people are faced with the consequences of their actions they often change their behavior.

Good luck and may God bless you.

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#18
post #13

Have you tried talking to her? Explaining the situation from your perspective, and just trying to let her know that you want to clear the air with her? I think opening up to her about your worries and feelings can help you both move forward and make your work environment more friendly.

And don't be defensive about wrong accusations thrown at you. Believe the your coworkers can see from the side how you behave around and treat other women.

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#19
post #7

Here's a counter-argument, just in case you need it. Of course I have no idea what the actual situation is. It was hard to find examples of things I'd consider bullying in your post. The only thing seemed to be being screamed at once, which I agree is unacceptable. Everything else seemed explainable as you having had an early disagreement with someone senior to you that led them to initially question your competence,…

It's not easy to defend yourself against sexist accusations, except that I have proof that I'm an activist and I've rallied for women rights and LGBT rights. Does it exclude the possibility of me being sexist? No, but it sure as hell keeps it at bay. I do consider the possibility that I made a bad impression. In fact I'm well aware that was a mistake and I tried to fix it by making up for it in any way possible. But…

> No, but it sure as hell keeps it at bay.

I would avoid this attitude. Assume there are areas where you can improve in this dimension. The fact that you're being defensive on this point here with us is not a good signal. It makes me think that maybe you are being defensive at work as well.

The correct response to this is, "I'll keep that in mind and look for ways to improve." There is zero room for making statements about how good you are on this point or any other, except through action. There is no way talking up your own qualities can help.

> Edit: From your perspective how can I solve it?

Personally, I'd go the direct conversation route. Schedule a one-on-one, say, "I've gotten the impression that our relationship doesn't have the professional trust I would like it to. I'd like to understand what I can do better." Take radical steps to demonstrate good faith. Never complain, never defend.

I was actually in this situation lately, but on the other side of the table. I had a person under my leadership who had been disgruntled and unsatisfied, and I had to go to them and basically say, I'm sorry I've been a bad lead, but I want to repair this. We had a long conversation where I basically took responsibility for every bad thing that had happened, and pledged to improve. Since then, there's been a night and day improvement in our professional relationship.

If it were a peer, I might suggest something different, because bullying in this case might be a way for the peer to assert extra-organizational power over you. But this individual already has organizational power over you -- what you perceive as bullying is probably not about obtaining more power.

Or it could be a rare case where the other individual has some sort of sociopathic tendencies. In which case there is probably not much you can do. But nine times out of ten this is not the situation.

Re: Ask HN: I’m being bullied at work. What do I do?

#20
I was in a similar position once.

What I did was kept my head down, performed the work without any personal, emotional investment and started looking for a new job. It took several months but it worked out for the better for me. I was so happy when it was time to submit my two weeks notice. I took three hours to craft my notice email. If you're good at what you do and your skill set is in demand, this may work for you.

Good luck.

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