When the word "harassment" appears, there's an 80% chance it's bs. Thanks, sjws.
Harassment at Apple: A personal perspective
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#22Where's the proof? More fake news stories, good job.
Is this sarcasm? Most of what she is talking about seems to be in person comments that she couldn't really record but anyway she is just talking about her experience and what she thinks could be done to improve the industry so I'm not sure proof on the specifics that happened to her are necessary
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#23Preamble: I'm not questioning or talking against the article at all, just making some notes. The problem seems to be real all around the world, which is yet another indicator that most societies are not ready for global market. The only thing I miss from the article: did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this shoul…
> did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this should always be the first step.
How do you support this statement? It doesn't strike me as a given and you don't really back it up at all.
Re: Harassment at Apple: A personal perspective
#24Preamble: I'm not questioning or talking against the article at all, just making some notes. The problem seems to be real all around the world, which is yet another indicator that most societies are not ready for global market. The only thing I miss from the article: did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this shoul…
I did confront them and ask them to stop, but I still had to work with them, and they didn't entirely stop .. Unless you expect women to have taken Harassment 101 as a college course, they are really flying blind with this one .. when more than one person is involved or supervisors are involved, it's not that easy to say oh here, let me pull so many people into HR .. legalities aside, it's the end of a happy working relationship ..
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#26> No one at the company took responsibility for anything other than protecting the company’s liability in case of a lawsuit
The tech industry absolutely doesn't need unions /s
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#27I wonder why she didn't record everything - especially since both managers and HR were trying to gaslight her - making her doubt her sanity.
If she'd gone to HR with recordings and they brushed aside her concerns then she'd have a much stronger case.
Well as she said, a distressed mind doesn't think properly.
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#28When the word "harassment" appears, there's an 80% chance it's bs. Thanks, sjws.
When the word "SJW" appears, there's a 99.9% chance it's BS.
Re: Harassment at Apple: A personal perspective
#29Preamble: I'm not questioning or talking against the article at all, just making some notes. The problem seems to be real all around the world, which is yet another indicator that most societies are not ready for global market. The only thing I miss from the article: did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this shoul…
> s/women/people Harassment get target _anyone_
But does it target everyone _equally_ ? Of course not, far from it. This is why we pay attention to the groups that get targeted a lot.
> Please don't make harassment part of the gender wars.
Assuming that it isn't already.
Re: Harassment at Apple: A personal perspective
#30Preamble: I'm not questioning or talking against the article at all, just making some notes. The problem seems to be real all around the world, which is yet another indicator that most societies are not ready for global market. The only thing I miss from the article: did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this shoul…
And the thing about questioning, I understand innocent until proven guilty, but putting the onus of everything on the victim is pretty unfair ..