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Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by NKCSS »

themodelplumber wrote: post #13

I just checked out the included templates. At least the first 20-30 are all ad templates, one of which is a full-screen mobile interstitial! That's the same element that just got an SEO finger wag from the Google Webmaster Central Blog[0]. _Just_ as the list of templates started getting interesting with some Youtube slider-thing integration, it came to an end. So yeah, this seems to be aimed at folks who need to buil…

The sub-text under 'USE TEMPLATE' is 'Use a pre-built ad template', to it's right there what this is ment to do.

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by webtechgal »

lstamour wrote: post #42
themodelplumber wrote: post #13

I just checked out the included templates. At least the first 20-30 are all ad templates, one of which is a full-screen mobile interstitial! That's the same element that just got an SEO finger wag from the Google Webmaster Central Blog[0]. _Just_ as the list of templates started getting interesting with some Youtube slider-thing integration, it came to an end. So yeah, this seems to be aimed at folks who need to buil…

This tool was announced in 2013 by a different part of the company: https://doubleclick-advertisers.googleblog.com/2013/09/googl...

Yes, even the TOS before downloading the package says:

Last modified: April 14, 2014

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by samuell »

tribby wrote: post #28
vcool07 wrote: post #17

Could any expert shed any information on why we lack a professional front-end WYSIWYG kind of editor for the web ? I remember tools like dreamweaver/frontpage existed a long time ago, but don't hear about them anymore. Is it something that's too hard to make or is it just that the market doesn't exist ?

> Could any expert shed any information on why we lack a professional front-end WYSIWYG kind of editor for the web ? we don't. webflow[0] is the best I've seen. there's an OSS clone called grapejs[1], but it's still very alpha. one reason we don't see greater adoption is that WYSIWYG editors for the web occupy a sort of middle ground between template-based hosts like squarespace, weebly, etc, and opinionated low-barr…

I second that webflow is seemingly the clearly best stuff out there. Just a pity they don't have a stand-alone client. Can't work on web designs while travelling in some parts of Africa etc, which is a shame :/

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by flukus »

tribby wrote: post #50
flukus wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest reason is that WYSIWYG doesn't really work on the web. What you see on your screen isn't what someone else will see because their monitor is a different size or they are on a mobile device. WYSIWYG requires a fixed layout size, which was common back when dreamweaver/frontpage were around.

this is incorrect. almost every modern WYSIWYG editor includes support for media queries.

People that understand media queries don't need WYSIWYG editors.

And there are still issues like css being polite suggestions rather than rules a browser has to follow. Firefox recently introduced a readability mode for instance.

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by coldtea »

flukus wrote: post #47
vcool07 wrote: post #17

Could any expert shed any information on why we lack a professional front-end WYSIWYG kind of editor for the web ? I remember tools like dreamweaver/frontpage existed a long time ago, but don't hear about them anymore. Is it something that's too hard to make or is it just that the market doesn't exist ?

The biggest reason is that WYSIWYG doesn't really work on the web. What you see on your screen isn't what someone else will see because their monitor is a different size or they are on a mobile device. WYSIWYG requires a fixed layout size, which was common back when dreamweaver/frontpage were around.

>The biggest reason is that WYSIWYG doesn't really work on the web. What you see on your screen isn't what someone else will see because their monitor is a different size or they are on a mobile device.

Different screen sizes and WYSIWYG use are orthogonals. Any WYSIWYG editor worth its salt has supported media queries, previewing on different screen sizes, breakpoints, etc for ages.

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by coldtea »

flukus wrote: post #56
tribby wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is incorrect. almost every modern WYSIWYG editor includes support for media queries.

People that understand media queries don't need WYSIWYG editors. And there are still issues like css being polite suggestions rather than rules a browser has to follow. Firefox recently introduced a readability mode for instance.

>People that understand media queries don't need WYSIWYG editors.

That's wrong, and analogous to saying that people who understand low level programming don't need IDEs.

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by username223 »

lstamour wrote: post #42
themodelplumber wrote: post #13

I just checked out the included templates. At least the first 20-30 are all ad templates, one of which is a full-screen mobile interstitial! That's the same element that just got an SEO finger wag from the Google Webmaster Central Blog[0]. _Just_ as the list of templates started getting interesting with some Youtube slider-thing integration, it came to an end. So yeah, this seems to be aimed at folks who need to buil…

This tool was announced in 2013 by a different part of the company: https://doubleclick-advertisers.googleblog.com/2013/09/googl...

Wow, that link is a truly amazing advertiser buzzword salad; it even has an on-brand "up and to the right" graph. It makes me long for the days when disabling Flash and pop-ups got rid of most web annoyances.

Re: Google Web Designer (2013)

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Post by HlessClaudesman »

themodelplumber wrote: post #13

I just checked out the included templates. At least the first 20-30 are all ad templates, one of which is a full-screen mobile interstitial! That's the same element that just got an SEO finger wag from the Google Webmaster Central Blog[0]. _Just_ as the list of templates started getting interesting with some Youtube slider-thing integration, it came to an end. So yeah, this seems to be aimed at folks who need to buil…

Yeah, it is ad-centric but can be reconfigured.

One advantage over other HTML IDE's is that GWD's output is generally readable code, which can be extended, rather than obfuscated proprietary (adobe) bullcrap.

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