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Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by striking »

devoply wrote: post #8
lisper wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> all the rich people in the world are scared of death and will pay anything to avoid it for as long as possible This is generally true of poor people as well.

Yes, but poor people can't pay. That's why they can't solve anything. Google can spend a billion dollars on this. Multiple billions can be easily spent on this. And it's a great time for that. So much excessive capital. So many millionaires and billionaires. All going to die. What can scientists do to help them?

We're looking for extended life for some people, without being able to guarantee a regular life for all.

What a world.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by krapp »

devoply wrote: post #8
lisper wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> all the rich people in the world are scared of death and will pay anything to avoid it for as long as possible This is generally true of poor people as well.

Yes, but poor people can't pay. That's why they can't solve anything. Google can spend a billion dollars on this. Multiple billions can be easily spent on this. And it's a great time for that. So much excessive capital. So many millionaires and billionaires. All going to die. What can scientists do to help them?

Not to put too cynical a point on it, but if I were getting paid by the world's rich for a cure for death... the last thing I would want to do is release it if I found it.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by sqeaky »

grabcocque wrote: post #9

Mightier and bloody wars will not be caused than when we finally figure out how to cure ageing.

Why? Any other thing we have invented has generally reduced war by increasing resources available to all, at least since industrialization. There are a few exception, but they were generally intended to be weapons, it seems hard to imagine an aging based weapon.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by lisper »

photoJ wrote: post #5

Lets hope so!

Careful what you wish for. Aging and death are woven deeply into the fabric of society, indeed, into the fabric of life itself. Old growth needs to be periodically swept away to make room for new growth.

The only logically possible outcome of immortality is that sooner or later the entire biomass of the planet is consumed by immortals, at which point all growth must stop. Imagine being the last person born into such a world, doomed forever to be the youngest, least experienced, least powerful member of a static society where no one ever ages and no new people are ever born. Is that really a life you would want to lead?

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by arithma »

striking wrote: post #11
devoply wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but poor people can't pay. That's why they can't solve anything. Google can spend a billion dollars on this. Multiple billions can be easily spent on this. And it's a great time for that. So much excessive capital. So many millionaires and billionaires. All going to die. What can scientists do to help them?

We're looking for extended life for some people, without being able to guarantee a regular life for all. What a world.

One is easier than the other I am afraid.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by ClassyJacket »

lisper wrote: post #15
photoJ wrote: post #5

Lets hope so!

Careful what you wish for. Aging and death are woven deeply into the fabric of society, indeed, into the fabric of life itself. Old growth needs to be periodically swept away to make room for new growth. The only logically possible outcome of immortality is that sooner or later the entire biomass of the planet is consumed by immortals, at which point all growth must stop. Imagine being the last person born into such…

Or, we could limit reproduction for those that choose not to age, so that you can only reproduce when you're next in line with and someone dies, keeping a consistent population.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by daemonk »

tldr for biologists out there. They made a transgenic mouse line of doxycycline inducible Yamanaka factors in progeria (LAKI) background. Too high induction lead to mortality and teratomas, which is known. They cyclicly induced the Yamanaka factors and found it reversed signs of aging (prolong lifespan by ~30%)

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by abakker »

sqeaky wrote: post #14
grabcocque wrote: post #9

Mightier and bloody wars will not be caused than when we finally figure out how to cure ageing.

Why? Any other thing we have invented has generally reduced war by increasing resources available to all, at least since industrialization. There are a few exception, but they were generally intended to be weapons, it seems hard to imagine an aging based weapon.

Reducing aging will likely reduce the resources available to all, by reducing the rate of population decline relative to the growth.

Re: Scientists engineer mice genomes to lengthen their lifespans by 30 percent

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

striking wrote: post #11
devoply wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but poor people can't pay. That's why they can't solve anything. Google can spend a billion dollars on this. Multiple billions can be easily spent on this. And it's a great time for that. So much excessive capital. So many millionaires and billionaires. All going to die. What can scientists do to help them?

We're looking for extended life for some people, without being able to guarantee a regular life for all. What a world.

No, ultimately we're looking for unlimited life for everyone. We will not sell anyone to the dark.
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