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Leonardo Da Vinci’s To Do List (circa 1490)

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Before I reached the last sentence, I looked hard at the image and opened it in a new tab, thinking I could read his writing (since I learned high-intermediate Italian). Nope, it's mirrored [1], which may have had to do with his dyslexia. Looking into it briefly, I came across a guy [2] who taught himself to write like Da Vinci (note: full-screen sign-up prompt upon clicking). Skip to to the 6th paragraph starting wi…

Mirror writing enables lefties to not smudge the ink (no ballpoint pens back then).

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post #24

I was trying to actually read the text and then I figured out Leonardo da Vinci wrote in mirror writing (writing in the direction that is the reverse of the natural way for a given language). Apparently nobody is quite sure why he did this. weird.

When you write with a dip pen (e.g. calligraphy), writing from left to write will smudge the ink if you are left-handed.

Writing the opposite direction preserves the same convenience of movement as right-handed writers have when doing calligraphy, and avoids smudging the ink. It seems an elegant solution for someone who is left-handed.

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post #18

> Get the master of arithmetic to show you how to square a triangle. What did he mean by this?

I think he meant finding the square whose area is equal to that of a given triangle. With our "modern" understanding of algebra and geometry, we know to do Area = 1/2 * base * height Area = s^2 therefore s = sqrt(1/2 * base * height) "Squaring the circle" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle ) was an ancient challenge, proven to be impossible with a straightedge and compass in the 1800s. He may have be…

See http://www.contracosta.edu/legacycontent/math/TriangleToSqua...

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Before I reached the last sentence, I looked hard at the image and opened it in a new tab, thinking I could read his writing (since I learned high-intermediate Italian). Nope, it's mirrored [1], which may have had to do with his dyslexia. Looking into it briefly, I came across a guy [2] who taught himself to write like Da Vinci (note: full-screen sign-up prompt upon clicking). Skip to to the 6th paragraph starting wi…

Mirror writing enables lefties to not smudge the ink (no ballpoint pens back then).

I don't remember much of the Arabic I learned, but I mastered the script because I found writing English-in-Arabic-script so much easier as a lefty that I wrote a lot of my notes that way.

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>[Talk to] Giannino, the Bombardier, re. the means by which the tower of Ferrara is walled without loopholes (no one really knows what Da Vinci meant by this) I thought "loopholes" generally referred to a narrow upright window with wide angles in the interior but little room at the outside. It's designed so that you can shoot arrows out of it with a wide degree of freedom, but hard to get an arrow into.

OK, let's agree that that defines 'loopholes' in this context but still what is meant by the overall comment? Why ask about building a tower without loopholes?

The loopholes were for, IIRC, scaffolding/braces used during the construction process; my guess would be that DaVinci wanted to know about the construction process that allowed for the building of a tall building WITHOUT those braces.

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Before I reached the last sentence, I looked hard at the image and opened it in a new tab, thinking I could read his writing (since I learned high-intermediate Italian). Nope, it's mirrored [1], which may have had to do with his dyslexia. Looking into it briefly, I came across a guy [2] who taught himself to write like Da Vinci (note: full-screen sign-up prompt upon clicking). Skip to to the 6th paragraph starting wi…

My son is a lefty and while learning to write he would write several words mirrored and mix them with normal writing. When asked he really couldn't see the difference. It all looked fine to him.

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post #3

> You can just feel Da Vinci’s voracious curiosity and intellectual restlessness. Note how many of the entries are about getting an expert to teach him something Nowadays that seems less common, with the incredibly amount of information available and readily accessible. However, I think learning from someone, even from just a short conversation, is highly valuable.

Yeah I never understood why people aren't more curious. I'm always looking for articles about how things are made, the history of given locations, and whatever just seems interesting. I never see anyone else with a marginally equivalent level of curiosity especially for my age (mid-30s). Seems like people get swallowed whole by their social lives and careers.

> I never see anyone else with a marginally equivalent level of curiosity especially for my age (mid-30s)

I'm in my early 30s, and the combination of work and having a very young child certainly puts an upper bound on the available free time and energy you have in any given day.

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Before I reached the last sentence, I looked hard at the image and opened it in a new tab, thinking I could read his writing (since I learned high-intermediate Italian). Nope, it's mirrored [1], which may have had to do with his dyslexia. Looking into it briefly, I came across a guy [2] who taught himself to write like Da Vinci (note: full-screen sign-up prompt upon clicking). Skip to to the 6th paragraph starting wi…

I did my Engineering Physics I homework using mirrored writing. The instructor didn't mind. Looking back, it's a bit risky given you're drawing equations and arrows, not only text. I hadn't tried this before or since.

At the end of the semester, I told him physics seemed fun but I thought software engineering was a better career choice for me. Only years later did I find via LinkedIn that he had worked as a software engineer for ten years before. :D

"probably because it's more natural for a left-hander to write backwards".

No, the key is that pulling the writing instrument requires a lot less muscle than pushing it. This means that mirror writing requires 1) more muscle strain or 2) less muscle strain than writing with the dominant hand if either the hand is switched, or the direction (LTR or RTL). If you swap both factors at the same time, then the strain is the same.

Left-handers who write LTR and switch direction (RTL) reduce the muscle strain compared to their usual writing as they're now pulling the pen. A right hander who does the same in this situation has to push the pen RTL with their right hand, which is harder than they're used to. A right hander should use the left-hand for mirror writing so they pull the pen like they're used to.

From this information, you can derive why people think it's easier to mirror write by switching hands, and others think it's easier for left-handers than right-handers to mirror write with their original hand.

TL;DR: Yes, there is initial effort to start mirror writing. But the real difference is that in the long-term, one group will find mirror writing to cause more hand strain than normal, and others will find it less hand strain than normal, because in one group pushing the pen is normal and in the other pulling it is.

Re: Leonardo Da Vinci’s To Do List (circa 1490)

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Before I reached the last sentence, I looked hard at the image and opened it in a new tab, thinking I could read his writing (since I learned high-intermediate Italian). Nope, it's mirrored [1], which may have had to do with his dyslexia. Looking into it briefly, I came across a guy [2] who taught himself to write like Da Vinci (note: full-screen sign-up prompt upon clicking). Skip to to the 6th paragraph starting wi…

mirror writing is actually easier to start doing with whatever hand you write with less often; i'd argue due to having less muscle memory to have to subvert mirror writing is only mirrored from a social standpoint all writing is just random lines we ascribe context to leonardo was a visual artist abstracting symbols from strokes is a part of the discipline and like finding your line while participating in a visual me…

See my post for the real reason why. You must be right-handed based on your first sentence.
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