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GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#31
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gitlab is a fully featured and ready full replacement for Github. Additionally, the Gitlab team is far more competent and listens better to user feedback.

I have never used GitLab, but I keep hearing lots of positive things. Is there anything they don't do as well or better than Github?

Site responsiveness, though they're working hard in that.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#32
post #6

I hope this is a temporary blip on the radar for Github, and that they return to profitability very quickly. Github should be a pillar platform in our community for the next decade, and the only way for them to become that is via profitability.

Why should it? They weren't responsive to user demands for years, routinely break features (checkbox saving is broken right now), and have terrible discovery and search.

If anything we should be cheering for gitlab. Atleast we can modify it locally.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#33
post #3

The thought of losing Github to the startup graveyard is kind of scary. It was bad enough to lose Google Code and when SourceForge had their "great purge" of inactive projects.

On the other hand, as Git is a DVCS even if GitHub went down the repos still live on local developer machines, so it'd be easy enough to move to a different Git hosting provider.

Yeah, but you lose a lot. Issues, Wikis, Github Pages, CI, Reviews, Projects etc.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#34
post #3

The thought of losing Github to the startup graveyard is kind of scary. It was bad enough to lose Google Code and when SourceForge had their "great purge" of inactive projects.

On the other hand, as Git is a DVCS even if GitHub went down the repos still live on local developer machines, so it'd be easy enough to move to a different Git hosting provider.

I moved a bunch of repos to bitbucket, since they support free private repositories (which I need for a small organization that I'm part of). It was, as your comment alludes, extremely quick and easy thanks to the "D" in DVCS.

That said, we don't use issues, the wiki, etc.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#36
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gitlab is a fully featured and ready full replacement for Github. Additionally, the Gitlab team is far more competent and listens better to user feedback.

I have never used GitLab, but I keep hearing lots of positive things. Is there anything they don't do as well or better than Github?

Although it's made a lot of progress the past few version the design/UX of Gitlab is a bit lacking.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#37
post #9

I always freak about some other country attacking github. The world would crumble/ it's probably some sort of weird national security scenario.

An attack on StackOverflow would be as bad or worse. These sites should probably be protected as areas of national strategic importance, like how the US protected the NYC docks during WWII.

I agree completely. Informational infrastructure is not taken as seriously as it should be.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#38
post #3

The thought of losing Github to the startup graveyard is kind of scary. It was bad enough to lose Google Code and when SourceForge had their "great purge" of inactive projects.

...aaand no more OSS!

Only half-kidding. So many big and small projects are using GitHub as their primary repository and sometimes their only homepage. And there's all those benefits of it being something of a social network as well, and an issue tracker and so on.

I'm sure something else would take its place, but it would take a while before it gets as much momentum.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#39
post #9

I always freak about some other country attacking github. The world would crumble/ it's probably some sort of weird national security scenario.

An attack on StackOverflow would be as bad or worse. These sites should probably be protected as areas of national strategic importance, like how the US protected the NYC docks during WWII.

Not really. StackOverflow is mirrored and archived everywhere, like in the Google Cache. Github is read/write, and can't be mirrored anywhere near as easily.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

#40
post #3

The thought of losing Github to the startup graveyard is kind of scary. It was bad enough to lose Google Code and when SourceForge had their "great purge" of inactive projects.

On the other hand, as Git is a DVCS even if GitHub went down the repos still live on local developer machines, so it'd be easy enough to move to a different Git hosting provider.

People keep bringing that up, but that's missing the bigger picture: GitHub is more than just a git host, it's also a "social hub" where people can fork repos and offer changes back (pull requests), a passable bugtracker (issues), even wiki, and even web host (github.io).

Many people have warned that using these added-value features makes you dependent on GitHub (Linus Torvalds has a kernel mirror on GitHub, but for this reason refuses to use its other features). Migrating all that metadata is hard (is it even possible?).

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