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GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #4

Part of me is glad the "inclusive" practices of only hiring women and minorities isn't being rewarded. At the same time, GitHub really is at the centre of opensource- how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site? And if they go under, who could replace them?

> how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site?

Because, to a first approximation, no-one is paying them for that hosting.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #8
post #4

Part of me is glad the "inclusive" practices of only hiring women and minorities isn't being rewarded. At the same time, GitHub really is at the centre of opensource- how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site? And if they go under, who could replace them?

can you substantiate that ideological extrapolation of yours?

As opposed to the hiring of people based on their demonstrated ability to contribute to your team. S/he's reacting to the perception that people are being hired primarily on, or being heavily credited for, their identities.

I'm not expressing an opinion on the idea, just outlining the debate for you.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #4

Part of me is glad the "inclusive" practices of only hiring women and minorities isn't being rewarded. At the same time, GitHub really is at the centre of opensource- how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site? And if they go under, who could replace them?

"... who could replace them?"

Im hoping it's a company run by women and minorities, just for your sake.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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>The new digs gave employees a reason to come into the office. Visitors would enter a lobby modeled after the White House’s Oval Office before making their way to a replica of the Situation Room. The company also erected a statue of its mascot, a cartoon octopus-cat creature known as the Octocat. The 55,000-square-foot space is filled with wooden tables and modern art.

The Sillicon Valley episodes write themselves it seems haha. This is hilarious.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #7
post #4

Part of me is glad the "inclusive" practices of only hiring women and minorities isn't being rewarded. At the same time, GitHub really is at the centre of opensource- how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site? And if they go under, who could replace them?

Gitlab is a fully featured and ready full replacement for Github. Additionally, the Gitlab team is far more competent and listens better to user feedback.

I have never used GitLab, but I keep hearing lots of positive things. Is there anything they don't do as well or better than Github?

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #4

Part of me is glad the "inclusive" practices of only hiring women and minorities isn't being rewarded. At the same time, GitHub really is at the centre of opensource- how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site? And if they go under, who could replace them?

Do they only hire women and minorities? A quick google turned up their "New Hires" blog (https://github.com/blog/category/hire) and that is made up of mostly white men. Granted the latest hire is from 2015. Is there something I'm missing?

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #10
post #3

The thought of losing Github to the startup graveyard is kind of scary. It was bad enough to lose Google Code and when SourceForge had their "great purge" of inactive projects.

That's what happens with centralized systems it is inevitable, from the Roman Empire to Google Code nothing is permanent.

The laws of physics are.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #4

Part of me is glad the "inclusive" practices of only hiring women and minorities isn't being rewarded. At the same time, GitHub really is at the centre of opensource- how can they be losing money when they are literally the defacto code hosting site? And if they go under, who could replace them?

Got a rigorous analysis anywhere backing the assertion that GitHub's failures are due to '"inclusive" practices'?

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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I can't find the blog post, but some blog wrote a while ago why VCs invest in companies like Github. TL;DR -- basically it provides infrastructure for other startups.

The business itself may not be a great business due to the amount of cost it takes to run it -- but it's necessary for the running of other ventures.

Sort of like highways and non-toll bridges.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can you substantiate that ideological extrapolation of yours?

As opposed to the hiring of people based on their demonstrated ability to contribute to your team. S/he's reacting to the perception that people are being hired primarily on, or being heavily credited for, their identities. I'm not expressing an opinion on the idea, just outlining the debate for you.

The implication was clear enough - which is why I asked for substantiation.

1. does github in fact "only hire women and minorities" at the expense of superior, talented white men?

2. assuming #1 is true, what evidence is there that said hiring practices are at the root of their financial difficulties?

It's easy to throw out loaded statements. I don't think it's nuts to request clarification.

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