Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you read the Old Testament? Christianity has plenty of barbarism in it.
It's called Old because there's a New Testament, which overrides the Old where applicable. And Jesus was a peace-loving man.
Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
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Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#142What about a database of people from countries with high propensity for radicalization, for example Tunisia, or Somalia? Paradox: Tunisia is perhaps the most progressive of all the M/E Muslim countries, and yet they are the #1 M/E country in terms of Jihadis. They are overwhelmingly the greatest per/capita Jihadi producers in the world. By far. Tunisia is very small. Networks are very small. 95% chance that a young m…
The question someone might ask here next is, "Sure, but who built it?"
If software engineers had a guild, we could, if this were deemed such an egregious offense (not saying it is, just following the logic of the submission), kick those people out of the guild.
Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#143Unfortunately, with firearms registration and no-fly lists, Muslim registries are part of the slope we've set precedent for. A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government to exercise a freedom explicitly granted in the constitution.
equating the purchase of a shotgun to having an ethnic or religious identity is a sad statement.
Libertarians, on the other hand, recognize that all of the amendments are vital and represented a huge step forward for not only the US, but all of mankind. Now, if only we would abide by them at the present time...
Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#144What about a database of people from countries with high propensity for radicalization, for example Tunisia, or Somalia? Paradox: Tunisia is perhaps the most progressive of all the M/E Muslim countries, and yet they are the #1 M/E country in terms of Jihadis. They are overwhelmingly the greatest per/capita Jihadi producers in the world. By far. Tunisia is very small. Networks are very small. 95% chance that a young m…
As a Tunisian I would like to add a comment: 1- Yes, there is a number of Tunisians that went to Syria. As you have said per/capita it is a large number. There are around 10 Million Tunisians and from 3000 to 8000 fighting in Syria (depending on the source). 2- This is due to several factors: Post-revolution politics, poverty, mistrust in the state institutions and the police, and -most importantly- a previous govern…
I do what I can to post international news and I try hard to mot make it just about negative things going on out in the larger world. Sometimes, those stories do get some small attention, but there is a serious diversity issue on many discussion boards in terms of what kinds of topics get attention, if that makes sense.
And I don't know if I am making myself clear, but I mean to say that there is a lot of prejudice, basically, often rooted in ignorance (and that ignorance is to some degree happenstance, but is also to some degree by choice). So thank you for commenting.
Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#145Of course they won't. Any tech worker worth hiring would write a general people database, and define 'muslim' as a query parameter. (With apologies to Nathaniel Borenstein. Also, it's true)
Are you arguing the 1000 people who've signed the petition are not worth hiring?
Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#146Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#147There's definitely going to be a database of visa overstayers. The plan to match entries and exits from the US is coming back. It's not like that should be hard.
What is being talked about (and has been for years) is biometric identity confirmation of the visitor leaving the country. I remember seeing the kiosks at the airport at one point years ago.
[1] https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/i-94-instr...
Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#148Doctors adhere to the Hippocratic Oath. Nevertheless doctors worked in concentration camps, were experimenting on humans, work as executioners currently in the US, work and worked in torture chambers, sell their patients to big pharma for Rolex watches and on and on and on. This pledge may be a statement but is practically worth nothing.
Doctor here. Never took the Hipp Oath and there's absolutely nothing binding about it. Regardless, most medical schools in the US are using the Declaration of Geneva in place of the Hippocratic Oath, since the former is more reasonable. Also not binding in any way. Here's the philosophy I follow: do the best I can for the person in the bed and his/her family.
The best thing about the Hippocratic Oath as a social construct is it makes everyone trust doctors (still rank high in every survey on trust) while doctors are just the same as everyone else.
So the cynic in me thinks this is the reason so many people push for something similar in IT.
Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims
#149Unfortunately, with firearms registration and no-fly lists, Muslim registries are part of the slope we've set precedent for. A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government to exercise a freedom explicitly granted in the constitution.
Flying isn't a constitutionally protected right. Voting is though. Should you be able to vote without registering?
In my opinion, voter registration is a reasonable regulation to protect everything I mentioned above, as long as it does not intimidate, discriminate, inconvenience, or harass citizens.