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Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Doctors adhere to the Hippocratic Oath.

Nevertheless doctors worked in concentration camps, were experimenting on humans, work as executioners currently in the US, work and worked in torture chambers, sell their patients to big pharma for Rolex watches and on and on and on.

This pledge may be a statement but is practically worth nothing.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is slightly abrasive, however, it is worth discussing. Every Religion has been warped by humans at some point to gain wealth or power, I think Islam has seen the worst of it. What was meant as framework to help people be happy and treat each other with dignity has turned into a destructive force used to justify crimes.

The thing is Islam wasn't "warped". Mohamet was a barbaric warlod, you think the religion he created was and is about love of respect to your enemies? Could you please explain the train of thought that brought you to such conclusions?

I would propose that he was one of the people that profited from the exploitation of Islam actually.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

#54

Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims yet people willingly add their names to a public Github repo as a LGBTQIA or POC in tech.

Sure, but there's a world of difference between volunteering your name to a public statement (knowing that it's public) and having your data harvested without your consent for purposes actively opposed to your own.

What makes it "your" data? Because it contains information about you? If I observe something about you, do you own that observation?

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

#55

Unfortunately, with firearms registration and no-fly lists, Muslim registries are part of the slope we've set precedent for. A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government to exercise a freedom explicitly granted in the constitution.

It's an interesting argument. How could that work for things like driving, where you need to prove competency before you are legally allowed to do something?

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Can we build a database of the programmers idiotic enough to believe such a pledge will actually make an iota of difference? A thicko / navel-gazingly hubristic persons database. Gees laudable goal but even contemplating that such a goal might be attainable, is a total eye-roller.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

#57

Unfortunately, with firearms registration and no-fly lists, Muslim registries are part of the slope we've set precedent for. A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government to exercise a freedom explicitly granted in the constitution.

I'd argue "A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government" should really be the entire statement. Things like aid and whatnot should really be isolated and broken off to prevent mass collection dbs.

Doesn't every birth have to be registered with the government?

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

#58

Unfortunately, with firearms registration and no-fly lists, Muslim registries are part of the slope we've set precedent for. A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government to exercise a freedom explicitly granted in the constitution.

equating the purchase of a shotgun to having an ethnic or religious identity is a sad statement.

Why? Both are guaranteed in the Constitution. Picking parts and playing favorites is what has lead us to the current state of affairs.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

#59

Unfortunately, with firearms registration and no-fly lists, Muslim registries are part of the slope we've set precedent for. A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government to exercise a freedom explicitly granted in the constitution.

I'd argue "A citizen should _never_ have to register with the government" should really be the entire statement. Things like aid and whatnot should really be isolated and broken off to prevent mass collection dbs.

Doesn't every birth have to be registered with the government?

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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For everyone dismissing this as "too late" and "this data already exists" should consider that this appears to be addressed in the pledge. > to scale back existing datasets with unnecessary racial, ethnic, and national origin data. > Responsibly destroy high-risk data sets and backups

Good luck getting Facebook or the US Census to do that. This is a useless gesture that means very little. I guess some people get to feel better about themselves. The first step would be some reforms in consumer protection laws dealing with privacy and information sharing. Just watch how much certain SV firms spend to opposed those changes.

and, you know, the US Tourist / Student / Work Visa system..
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