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Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by exabrial »

jsf666 wrote: post #20

Can someone explain to me why a religion made by a pedophile-barbarian is somehow tolerated and even defended against "islamophobia" (is e.g. a gay guy phobic for being scared of muslims that given power would throw him from a building or persecute him in some other way at least)? Their whole ideology (as it basically governs every aspect of life) is crude, vile, barbaric and dangerous. The animosity towards them is…

Your comment is slightly abrasive, however, it is worth discussing.

Every Religion has been warped by humans at some point to gain wealth or power, I think Islam has seen the worst of it. What was meant as framework to help people be happy and treat each other with dignity has turned into a destructive force used to justify crimes.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by mozumder »

1ris wrote: post #8

It's a ridiculous and naive view of the world. Of course it already exists. For example on facebook. For example in the mosques. Everybody was warned, everybody could have seen this coming. But most people didn't give a fuck. Welcome is post privacy. I didn't need have to be that way. We can still turn this into post-post-privacy. But only if we face what we have already done.

Mosques don't keep track of members. You can go into any Mosque and hang out if you wish.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by hprotagonist »

milge wrote: post #3

Sadly, there will always be tech workers willing to do this for the right price. As I get older, I'm starting to wonder if not following my "tech morals" would've brought more success.

     01:17:25 -Chris. -I'm all right.
     01:17:32 -They took everything. -Kent's tracking system is gone!
     01:17:39 How could you build that mirror?!
     01:17:50 He lied to us.
     01:17:53 It's easy to lie to you, Mitch.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by up_so_floating »

Like the archival of climate data, the gesture changes nothing and the coverage sensationalist.

I archived Holocaust evidence, the Doctor Seuss anthology, and my grandmother's spaghetti recipe. And I pledge to never assassinate kittens or puppies. Why? Because Trump...

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by coldtea »

1ris wrote: post #8

It's a ridiculous and naive view of the world. Of course it already exists. For example on facebook. For example in the mosques. Everybody was warned, everybody could have seen this coming. But most people didn't give a fuck. Welcome is post privacy. I didn't need have to be that way. We can still turn this into post-post-privacy. But only if we face what we have already done.

>Everybody was warned, everybody could have seen this coming.

There has been nothing coming. Trumps pre-election stuff was BS, nothing will be done. Check back in 4 years.

Besides government agencies obviously already have detailed profiles of such things, going far beyond the religion of a subject.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by kukx »

exolymph wrote: post #25
jsf666 wrote: post #20

Can someone explain to me why a religion made by a pedophile-barbarian is somehow tolerated and even defended against "islamophobia" (is e.g. a gay guy phobic for being scared of muslims that given power would throw him from a building or persecute him in some other way at least)? Their whole ideology (as it basically governs every aspect of life) is crude, vile, barbaric and dangerous. The animosity towards them is…

Have you read the Old Testament? Christianity has plenty of barbarism in it.

It's called Old because there's a New Testament, which overrides the Old where applicable. And Jesus was a peace-loving man.

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by jsf666 »

exolymph wrote: post #25
jsf666 wrote: post #20

Can someone explain to me why a religion made by a pedophile-barbarian is somehow tolerated and even defended against "islamophobia" (is e.g. a gay guy phobic for being scared of muslims that given power would throw him from a building or persecute him in some other way at least)? Their whole ideology (as it basically governs every aspect of life) is crude, vile, barbaric and dangerous. The animosity towards them is…

Have you read the Old Testament? Christianity has plenty of barbarism in it.

That's Judaism, and I think the Palestinians would agree...

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by lhnz »

exolymph wrote: post #29
atom-morgan wrote: post #15

Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims yet people willingly add their names to a public Github repo as a LGBTQIA or POC in tech.

Do you not see how these two things are different?

I think you can be reasonably certain that they are able to see the difference in intention.

However, can such a database be misused? Yes. And, that's probably their point.

(I agree that it's an edge-lordy comment that seems like it's intended to annoy. But the reason it can annoy people is that there is an element of truth to it.)

Re: Tech workers pledge to never build a database of Muslims

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Post by marchenko »

The book IBM and the Holocaust[0] gives an interesting historical perspective on the misuse of databases and database technology. One fascinating point with modern echoes is how often sensitive information (such as having Jewish ancestry) was simply volunteered to officials such as census-takers.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

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