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Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by mtgx »

bmh100 wrote: post #57

One benefit of these incidents at Yahoo! is that they represent salient, clear examples of the cost of poor information security. CIOs and security directors will be able to point to this deal as evidence that poor security can have material impact on the business and destroy massive shareholder value, even years after the fact. A 6.5% intra-day dip sends a clear message. Even a CFO can now see that information secur…

Not giving the NSA root access to your servers and to everyone's data should also help.

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by gibrown »

JorgeGT wrote: post #84
untog wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does WordPress have reblogging? A feed that will show you all the posts from people you follow? From what I've seen (and I'll admit to not being overly familiar with either), WordPress and Tumblr are very different beasts with every different aims.

> Does WordPress have reblogging? A feed that will show you all the posts from people you follow? To answer your questions: yes and yes: https://en.blog.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/read-blogs/ (Not that I use it, but this functionality was implemented back in 2012).

And still actively being worked on: https://en.blog.wordpress.com/2016/12/14/reader-refresh-2017...

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by mevile »

chrisper wrote: post #78
brilliantcode wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

interesting...forgot about flickr. to be honest imgur and even reddituploads pretty much killed it for me.

But imgur and reddituploads are serving a different purpose? They are both just image sharing (no one cares if it is low quality). However, Flickr is for photographers who want high quality images and EXIF info etc.

imgur is now a social network. It has long since de-emphasized being an image sharing tool. Almost all actions are now geared toward sharing images inside imgur, and not externally. They just added following and messaging capabilities. Imgur doesn't compete with flickr, it competes with reddit, twitter and facebook.

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by __derek__ »

CodeSheikh wrote: post #63

Let's also not downplay the "Yahoo" brand name. It does not have much high impact negative publicity associated to it (yet). The name "Yahoo!" goes as far back as the Internet for modern day users i.e. 30+ yrs age group. If Verizon can put a nice spin to it and through micro-filtration of the brand whatever filtrate is left, as long as it is somewhat appealing it would sell, let it be a search engine or whatever new…

> It does not have much high impact negative publicity associated to it (yet).

A billion compromised accounts seems like it could fill that role. Many people may not understand their online information's privacy/security, but that's an ear-grabbing number.

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by cmdrfred »

swang wrote: post #98
cmdrfred wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't an attack and my summation was correct as he has friends that work there.

how can you work in tech and not have "a connection" to yahoo? also how is your comment not an attack? you're saying his opinion is tainted... because he knows people who work at yahoo? does that mean no one can have a fair opinion on apple, amazon, google, microsoft?

You are completely right, human beings are analytical machines without a hint of cognitive bias whatsoever.

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by at-fates-hands »

bmh100 wrote: post #57

One benefit of these incidents at Yahoo! is that they represent salient, clear examples of the cost of poor information security. CIOs and security directors will be able to point to this deal as evidence that poor security can have material impact on the business and destroy massive shareholder value, even years after the fact. A 6.5% intra-day dip sends a clear message. Even a CFO can now see that information secur…

>> they represent salient, clear examples of the cost of poor information security.

I'm seriously flabbergasted that they continue to let this happen. The last time you would've thought head would roll, they would batten down the hatches, notify users and be completely proactive in defending against another attack.

To me, it looks like they just said, "Well, fuck it, it won't happen again, why invest the time and money to protect our users?" I'd also point out the breech they're referencing was from 2013 so any data that was pilfered has already been running wild on the underground and been passed around a few thousand times. Another reason it just shows they don't care at all.

After this, no investor should touch this company with a ten foot pole.

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by alasdair_ »

anton_tarasenko wrote: post #6

Yahoo controls 8% of search traffic and costs $4bn. Google controls 64% of search traffic and costs $558bn. That's a 17-fold difference in the price for 1% of the traffic. Even more if you take US search traffic only (to exclude Yahoo Japan). Verizon can get rid of the costly parts of Yahoo (mostly its media business) and have its own small Google to make cash. That was $1.8bn per year in 2015, while Yahoo's overall…

>Yahoo controls 8% of search traffic

Isn't Microsoft the one providing search results? If it is, then Microsoft ultimately controls the traffic, not Yahoo.

Re: Verizon Explores Lower Price or Even Exit from Yahoo Deal

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Post by evanelias »

spoinkaroo wrote: post #86
bmh100 wrote: post #57

One benefit of these incidents at Yahoo! is that they represent salient, clear examples of the cost of poor information security. CIOs and security directors will be able to point to this deal as evidence that poor security can have material impact on the business and destroy massive shareholder value, even years after the fact. A 6.5% intra-day dip sends a clear message. Even a CFO can now see that information secur…

The yahoo dip is even larger, considering yahoo's stock is primarily Alibaba. If it were split into two companies the dip would likely be >20%.

True, but BABA is also down 2.5% today on its own, probably due to concerns about the impact of rising US interest rates on China's economy and debt.

Drops in BABA's share price tend to be mirrored in YHOO's, so that's responsible for a decent portion (albeit less than half) of today's dip.

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