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German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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Re: German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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The thing is, scientists have a much more powerful tool to stop bad publishers: Don't give them your texts. And maybe even more important: Don't demand from your applicants that they have published in high impact journals from the very same publishers that make your life hard.

That might really change things.

Everyone has been complaining about Elsevier for years now. They still have publications and they still seem to have no problem to fill them. That's the problem.

Re: German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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post #4

The thing is, scientists have a much more powerful tool to stop bad publishers: Don't give them your texts. And maybe even more important: Don't demand from your applicants that they have published in high impact journals from the very same publishers that make your life hard. That might really change things. Everyone has been complaining about Elsevier for years now. They still have publications and they still seem…

You could give me an ELI5?

Why are they bad..?

Re: German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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post #4

The thing is, scientists have a much more powerful tool to stop bad publishers: Don't give them your texts. And maybe even more important: Don't demand from your applicants that they have published in high impact journals from the very same publishers that make your life hard. That might really change things. Everyone has been complaining about Elsevier for years now. They still have publications and they still seem…

while this isnt in any way a scientific observation, it does feel that the quality of elsevier publications has been falling recently.

it seems it was 2013 the last time they were shouting about rising impact factors.

losing all of germany will certainly hit the various if hard.

Re: German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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post #5
post #4

The thing is, scientists have a much more powerful tool to stop bad publishers: Don't give them your texts. And maybe even more important: Don't demand from your applicants that they have published in high impact journals from the very same publishers that make your life hard. That might really change things. Everyone has been complaining about Elsevier for years now. They still have publications and they still seem…

You could give me an ELI5? Why are they bad..?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cost_of_Knowledge

Re: German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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post #4

The thing is, scientists have a much more powerful tool to stop bad publishers: Don't give them your texts. And maybe even more important: Don't demand from your applicants that they have published in high impact journals from the very same publishers that make your life hard. That might really change things. Everyone has been complaining about Elsevier for years now. They still have publications and they still seem…

You could give me an ELI5? Why are they bad..?

This post has a lot of details about it: http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2016/12/12/why-i-still-wont-r...

Re: German research institutions boycott Elsevier

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post #4

The thing is, scientists have a much more powerful tool to stop bad publishers: Don't give them your texts. And maybe even more important: Don't demand from your applicants that they have published in high impact journals from the very same publishers that make your life hard. That might really change things. Everyone has been complaining about Elsevier for years now. They still have publications and they still seem…

No, but they do, demonstrably, have trouble running them without community's support, for example: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=28545

I don't think they disappear, or anything, but I think the idea that they would get away scot-free is dead wrong.

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