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Like with most things Apple, they don't necessarily create the first product in a space, but they define the category by refinement of user experience and inventing the necessary tech to support that. This Plantronics case isn't that great. You have to open it with two hands in front of you, and carefully place the awkwardly shaped headset in. You probably have to look at it while doing so. It's rather large, and the…

Indeed. The fact that the first use experience is (from what I've heard) the very best pairing experience for any bluetooth headset ever tells that story quite well (all thanks to Apple's proprietary W1 chip, of course). I've got a pair of Bose QC 35s and though their pairing experience is standard annoying bluetooth pairing, their support of multiple devices/easily switching between them is the best I've seen in blu…

"The fact that the first use experience is (from what I've heard) the very best pairing experience for any bluetooth headset ever tells that story quite well (all thanks to Apple's proprietary W1 chip, of course)."

From who? They're not available, not even any pre-release reviews around.

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Just out of curiosity, what type of situations cause this to happen to you? This literally has never happened to me except while working out, and workout time amounts to probably 5% or less of my headphone usage

Most commonly? Drawer handles in the kitchens at work and at home. Second place: the corners of my desk (or maybe doorknobs). Basically, any protruding object in a tight space. It's pretty unlikely to happen if you're sitting still, but it's routine if you wear them while moving around inside.

They got yanked out by the emergency brake as I was getting in my car earlier today. This can't just be me.

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Actually it is a bit more than "a pair of fucking headphones". As someone who spends a lot of time throughout the day listening to music, and finds Apple's Earpods to be some of the most comfortable nice sounding headphones I have owned, I'm rather excited about some innovation being done around this space. A few features that make them new/innovative: • Smart switching between multiple devices logged into iCloud. Yo…

>• Smart switching between multiple devices logged into iCloud. You need only pair with one of your iCloud devices and the rest will auto pair. Genuine feature, and a neat one at that. Previously I had to rely on stuff like NFC or saved pairs, which is still more than 1 pair. >• Auto-pause when removed from ears. Also a genuine feature. Takes some real thinking to make that a priority in the UX. >• Auto-mono when onl…

>Is that really a feature? I mean I guess that's cool, but it seems like a play on the previous feature sensing if in use or not.

I think the distinction is that its not just turning off one of the phones. Its switching from stereo to mono so you can still hear everything you previously required both sides of the stereo mix (left + right) for. Definitely not a big jump from the other feature, but still goes to show how they are thinking about the small details.

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Indeed. The fact that the first use experience is (from what I've heard) the very best pairing experience for any bluetooth headset ever tells that story quite well (all thanks to Apple's proprietary W1 chip, of course). I've got a pair of Bose QC 35s and though their pairing experience is standard annoying bluetooth pairing, their support of multiple devices/easily switching between them is the best I've seen in blu…

"The fact that the first use experience is (from what I've heard) the very best pairing experience for any bluetooth headset ever tells that story quite well (all thanks to Apple's proprietary W1 chip, of course)." From who? They're not available, not even any pre-release reviews around.

Beats headphones with the W1 chip in them have been available since the the iPhone 7 release. I am, admittedly, assuming that the AirPods will be as good at this as the Beats headphones with the chip, but I believe that's a reasonable assumption.

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I wasn't proposing an exhaustive sampling, but you also haven't satisfied the $20 claim above. Even Reddit finds more plausible comps: - Samsung Gear IconX ($200) 4GB of on-board storage+, fitness tracking+ -- 1.6 Hours - Motorola VerveOnes ($200) Can look up last connected location if lost+ -- 2-3 Hours - Bragi Dash ($300) Fitness tracking+, gesture control+, 4GB storage+, Audio passthrough+ -- 4 Hours - Bragi Headp…

yeah this falls under "that isn't exactly the same product," above. I'm not sure, for instance, why you left 'can use either headphone independently' off the Gear IconX entry, because you can. I'm not sure why about half of these entries leave out the charge-case entry, because a lot of them have it. But it's irrelevant. You can say "apple's product is better." You can say "these other products are terrible." You can…

I didn't say any of these things you keep saying I'm saying, so I'm not trying to demonstrate otherwise.

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I hear people saying this a lot, but I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of consumers would be incapable of telling the difference between Bluetooth and wired audio in a blind test. Also, given that the vast majority of earbuds people use are sub-$20, I bet the audio quality isn't that great to begin with.

Not everyone uses crap headphones. Some people even use quality headphones, and also don't want another device to charge.

Cool, so use the free adapter.

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I hear people saying this a lot, but I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of consumers would be incapable of telling the difference between Bluetooth and wired audio in a blind test. Also, given that the vast majority of earbuds people use are sub-$20, I bet the audio quality isn't that great to begin with.

if 90% of consumers are incapable of telling the difference then why would apple use such an expensive DAC in their phone? I can't speak for everyone, but it's a pretty noticeable difference to me especially considering my hearing isn't very good to begin with.

Because (a) Apple doesn't like to half-arse things, and (b) Apple knows its consumer base includes people who like to use very expensive headphones.

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How are they forcing you to do anything?

They've also removed the headphone jack from the newest model iPhone. You can get an adapter that adds it back, but obviously this is fairly inconvenient. Apple's counting on this to get people to toss their old earbuds/headphones. Maybe force is too strong, but it certainly seems physically connected audio devices are now deprecated

>Maybe force is too strong, but it certainly seems physically connected audio devices are now deprecated

Well yeah, they sort of are. The future is wireless, there's really no denying that at this point.

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A large part of the reason they fall out is that the weight of the cable pulls them out. It's not 100% of the cause but it's definitely a major factor.

Citation needed -- the original Apple bluetooth headset for the iPhone fell out of my ears all the time.

>Citation needed

Physics?

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