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Re: AirPods are now available

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How are they forcing you to do anything?

They've also removed the headphone jack from the newest model iPhone. You can get an adapter that adds it back, but obviously this is fairly inconvenient. Apple's counting on this to get people to toss their old earbuds/headphones. Maybe force is too strong, but it certainly seems physically connected audio devices are now deprecated

You can use some plain old bluetooth headsets like most people have been for years.

If you really dislike wireless for some reason, you can also get lighting earbuds (I think the iPhone 7 actually includes some).

Finally, if you like all these ideas so much, you can avoid purchasing the product you dislike. It's not like they're forcing this onto existing clients by disabling the existing 3.5mm jack.

Re: AirPods are now available

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I find this headphone war discussion a bit boring. The AirPods are much more interesting as Apple's first foray into augmented reality. If they add positioning, this product becomes Magic Leap without the visuals. I don't think they see this as a music device, they see it as a new platform for audio. Interesting things start happening when people start leaving one or both in their ears all day. Arrival times in your…

Except this comes back to same problem most things do these days: battery life. You're going to need to return these to their case every few hours, so no one is going to wear them uninterrupted for a day.

That's five hours of continuous audio. OP is talking about a world where you leave them in all day and get periodic audio. Not everyone listens to music 24/7.

Re: AirPods are now available

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There's like a next-level Apple marketing babble on that page: "AirPods introduce an effortless wireless listening experience packed with high-quality audio and long battery life. These magical wireless headphones use advanced technology to reinvent how we listen to music, make phone calls, enjoy TV shows and movies, play games and interact with Siri, providing a wireless audio experience not possible before." Magica…

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Maybe you're not primitive enough to understand the page as-is.

Re: AirPods are now available

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They should have used the cigarette butt picture: https://www.cnet.com/products/apple-airpods/preview/ Regarding specs: + Bluetooth + No cables + 5 hours battery life + Charging case with total 24 hours battery life + Automatically turn off when removing from your ears + Key synchronization via iCloud (makes pairing process simpler - and could make sharing process simpler as well - but is Apple-only) + Peripheral to…

> Key synchronization via iCloud (makes pairing process simpler - and could make sharing process simpler as well - but is Apple-only)

So you can't actually use these on your [non macOS] laptop? Wow, requiring two pairs of headphones certainly is a huge dis-qualifier.

Re: AirPods are now available

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post #331

I find this headphone war discussion a bit boring. The AirPods are much more interesting as Apple's first foray into augmented reality. If they add positioning, this product becomes Magic Leap without the visuals. I don't think they see this as a music device, they see it as a new platform for audio. Interesting things start happening when people start leaving one or both in their ears all day. Arrival times in your…

But what about the possibility of losing the earpieces? They don't have a cable and don't secure into your ear like a hearing aid or even a normal bluetooth device. If they are so comfortable to the point of the user "forgetting they are there" the rate at which people will lose these things might be huge. They don't dangle from a cable when falling like normal headphones or Bluetooth headphones that have a cable bet…

It's possible we'll stop buying earbuds in pairs, and start buying them in ten packs. Some for your pocket, in your desk at work, at home, spares in the car... maybe some genius will figure out a design that fits in either ear, and uses compass measurements with the other bud to figure out whether it's in the left or right ear.

Re: AirPods are now available

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That's the strange thing about these. Why didn't Apple allow for custom earbuds e.g. Comply or provide some way to modify the physical design to accomodate people with different ears.

You can rest assured that there will be an aftermarket of artisinally crafted earpods, hand carved and remolded to fit into your laser scanned ear canals.

Or slightly more low tech - an audiologist making a mold using putty:

https://nobleaudio.com/en/shop/custom/

https://nobleaudio.com/en/support/impressions-instructions/

Re: AirPods are now available

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post #352

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I don't think they see this as a music device either. I think they see it as a way of making money from their decision to remove the audio jack from the phone. That said, you're spot on with your forecasts of how great this could be, the AR of audio is potentially awesome.

That's such a cynical, boring view. I'm sorry, but it is. You really think that Apple removed the headphone jack to make a bit more cash? Seriously? Hand-on-heart honestly, you think that's why? Come on. I think it's because they love cool new things. Thank f k they do because, frankly, nobody else seems to be doing anything interesting. I know, I know, they're not perfect. AirPods are late. They're expensive. I know…

It can be both; one good reason to make something cool is to make money from it.

Re: AirPods are now available

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post #331

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But what about the possibility of losing the earpieces? They don't have a cable and don't secure into your ear like a hearing aid or even a normal bluetooth device. If they are so comfortable to the point of the user "forgetting they are there" the rate at which people will lose these things might be huge. They don't dangle from a cable when falling like normal headphones or Bluetooth headphones that have a cable bet…

>But what about the possibility of losing the earpieces? It's interesting to see how many people seem want to stop the conversation at "you're bound to lose one so what's the point." 10-15 years ago people the argument could have been made about cell phones, "why carry a phone you're bound to leave at a restaurant or on a train..." If the AirPods or wireless mini computers in your ears become so integrated into our d…

Ultimately that's what is going to limit the success of this product. It's not just one issue, you also now suddenly have to manage 3 pools of battery for a single device with that unnecessary dental floss container thing. I don't think this is good design, at least not in the function over form sense. If apple wasn't so stubborn they could just have linked both earpieces with a cable and a small battery in the middle eliminating both, the extra battery pool and "losability" problems. The price could also come down since there is no need for the dental floss device.

I don't want more batteries and dongles to carry around. A phone and a headphone are already cumbersome in my pocket.

Eventually we will have batteries powerful enough to eliminate the need for that dental floss thing, and the industry will finally standardize induction charging making charging the earpieces anywhere a reality.. but until then, apple is just ahead of the time.

But in a bad sense. Instead, they could just have made a product that is more realistic with the technology we have.

Re: AirPods are now available

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post #59

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The reviews I've heard of these and the Beats Solo3 (which use the same chip) indicate that the wireless connection on these is absolutely rock solid. This includes a very picky friend of mine who got a set of Solo3 headphones; he's blown away. I'd like to see the AirPods in the wild for a month or so before I totally believe this, but early indications are good.

https://www.cnet.com/products/apple-airpods/preview/ Until, of course, they start to produce some of the same little pops and interruptions I always get from Bluetooth earphones when I'm walking. I don't seem to get quite as many with the AirPods, but the skips and interruptions, when they happen, make me wish for something wired. Did they stay connected? Mostly, but I still heard audio pops from time to time. Not as…

I've never heard pops or skips when walking/outside/etc, and have used bluetooth headsets since 2008, way more than an hour a day.

If AirPods have this issue, they're clearly inferior to 8-year old tech.

(NOTE: I have had skips when leaving my phone and walking into another room, or stuff like that, but that's just because I walked out of range).

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