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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

bhauer wrote: post #177
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you missed something but I guess this is why you guys are so angry about this. Because it IS an entry into a nascent market. Apple sees this as a new IO device, not a "pair of fucking headphones". Take a look at the specs

I can't speak for the other guys above, but I must have missed something. I am baffled why this particular set of wireless headphones has received as much press as it has. It seems so overblown that I have to wonder if people with iPhone 7s have actually been refusing to use existing wireless headphones because they are actually waiting for these. I've had a set of $25 Motorola wireless (Bluetooth) headphones that I…

Looking at the list of specs you mentioned, yes, you missed something. There's another guy right above talking about the non-music related features, take a look.

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Post by NasEscobar »

monochromatic wrote: post #121
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #24

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Maybe because... it IS a marketing page? As much as I've also become an apple hater recently because of what they've done to iOS10 and the new macbook pro, I think criticizing a marketing copy for being a marketing copy is not fair.

What do you hate about iOS10? The new Messages app annoys me, but otherwise it seems fine.

Messages is too busy now, there's too much going on in that app. It's a mess of sharing options and emoji.

Re: AirPods are now available

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Post by hasbroslasher »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #133
monochromatic wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you hate about iOS10? The new Messages app annoys me, but otherwise it seems fine.

Yes, the new Messages app annoys me.

A lot of the time it seems like Apple just changes things on iOS just because, not because there's actually any tangible benefits to doing so. The UI changes for Messages iOS 10 is a perfect example - it feels cramped and complicated where it used to feel intuitive and easy to use.

Re: AirPods are now available

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Post by Amezarak »

gambiting wrote: post #173
Skunkleton wrote: post #157

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How is it anything more than a wireless version of the headphones they have been bundling for years?

It's like calling a Tesla "an electric version of the same cars that were on the road for decades". Each headphone has a new chip that could probably run a whole smartphone few years ago - but I mean, if the fact that they are wireless is not impressive, then I don't think we can convince you.

He's probably not impressed by the fact they're wireless because wireless headphones aren't new. I mean, even stodgy grumps like me have a pair that works well and cost $20. Wireless headphones just aren't impressive technology in December 2016. They've been done. Again and again. This isn't a Tesla situation by any means.

Apple might have executed particularly well, but I see his point.

Re: AirPods are now available

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Post by piquadrat »

rrdharan wrote: post #12
FireBeyond wrote: post #7

There's like a next-level Apple marketing babble on that page: "AirPods introduce an effortless wireless listening experience packed with high-quality audio and long battery life. These magical wireless headphones use advanced technology to reinvent how we listen to music, make phone calls, enjoy TV shows and movies, play games and interact with Siri, providing a wireless audio experience not possible before." Magica…

Both the magical and reinvent I'll happily concede, but in defense of the "not possible before" I think there's an argument to be made that their pairing UX is so much better as to constitute a whole new experience versus standard bluetooth? [Of course, I say this as someone who has been happily using wireless Jaybird earbuds with a variety of iOS and macOS devices for the past three years without many complaints. I…

I recently bought wireless bluetooth headphones from Sennheiser. The pairing process consisted of holding the phone next to the headphones for a second, done (thanks to NFC). Not sure how you can improve much on that.

Re: AirPods are now available

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Post by j2bax »

bhauer wrote: post #177
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you missed something but I guess this is why you guys are so angry about this. Because it IS an entry into a nascent market. Apple sees this as a new IO device, not a "pair of fucking headphones". Take a look at the specs

I can't speak for the other guys above, but I must have missed something. I am baffled why this particular set of wireless headphones has received as much press as it has. It seems so overblown that I have to wonder if people with iPhone 7s have actually been refusing to use existing wireless headphones because they are actually waiting for these. I've had a set of $25 Motorola wireless (Bluetooth) headphones that I…

Can you provide a link to your headphones so I can see if they are something I'd be at all interested in?

Re: AirPods are now available

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Post by tajen »

gdulli wrote: post #25
FireBeyond wrote: post #7

There's like a next-level Apple marketing babble on that page: "AirPods introduce an effortless wireless listening experience packed with high-quality audio and long battery life. These magical wireless headphones use advanced technology to reinvent how we listen to music, make phone calls, enjoy TV shows and movies, play games and interact with Siri, providing a wireless audio experience not possible before." Magica…

All companies play this puffery game but this goes far enough that it's practically insulting to the audience.

Well, the 1st and 3rd iPhones were revolutions. The Mac screens are stunning. It wasn't BS when Apple used to use it. Until they kept the same language and dropped innovation.

In the same fashion, I was in a company whose motto was "Be the change you seek", which is really entrepreneur-minded and active. They changed their motto to "Advance humanity". Most employees said "It's ok, it's the kind of marketing bullshit that no-one even listens to". It wasn't about building something awesome together. The motto was here, hanging in the hall, just saying "We're strongly delusional, we all speak bullshit now, and we know you won't even debate about it because no-one believes it anyway! Look at us, we're kings of the universe!"

As you say, it is insulting to the audience.

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Post by throwanem »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #183
throwanem wrote: post #149

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How the hell do you turn that off? I'd love to know, because I'm not going to upgrade to iOS 10 until I'm sure it won't hose my phone, and I'm sick and tired of being bothered about it twice a day.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/how-stop-ios-nagging... Ridiculous, right?

Perhaps, considering that I don't recall having ever had Automatic Updates turned on, and yet my phone had downloaded 10.1.something and was nagging me about installing it. (Automatic Updates already wasn't turned on when I followed the steps to disable it.) Deleting the update from the storage UI is a piece I hadn't previously run across, and I've gone ahead and done it.

I'm now seeing the 10.2 update available, but it hasn't (yet) been downloaded; if a day goes by and it still isn't, then I'd have to say I owe you a beer, or several, for pointing me at a way to relieve what was getting to be a real pain in the neck. (Although why I failed to find this clue for myself is a curious question in its own right - it's certainly not for want of looking! In any case, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to point it out.)

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Post by madeofpalk »

Avshalom wrote: post #118
1_2__3 wrote: post #104

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There's marketing copy, and then there's throw-up-a-little-in-your-mouth marketing copy. This is the latter.

Right, this isn't a world class entry into a nascent market. This is a pair of fucking headphones. A pair of headphones a month later than they should be that look exactly like their old headphones

> A pair of headphones a month later than they should be that look exactly like their old headphones

??? Maybe we have different standards on what 'look different' should be, but these are functionally and design-wise worlds apart from their existing headphones.

Re: AirPods are now available

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Post by epochwolf »

antiffan wrote: post #174

A feature I'd love to see: sync to AirPods. I imagine it won't happen because in some ways it's kind of backwards, but I hate running with my phone, especially because I have a huge 6+. It seems like a simple thing to just want to be able to take some of my music/podcasts with me running, but it's not realistic unless I own a separate iPod shuffle that I then have to deal with. Adding a small amount of memory to AirP…

That's what the Apple Watch is for: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204691
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