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China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
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Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#72IP isn't enforced there, technology companies are comprimised from the start, "failure" isn't seen as a stepping stone to success, basic personal freedoms for its citizens don't exist.
Hm, wonder why smart people with plenty of options wouldn't want to live under a totalitarian government like that.
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#73Thank you for sharing. But tech China is not only mainland China. Taiwan is also tech.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct The problem would be much smaller if they used a non-tonal language with a manageable alphabet or abjad (like Cyrillic or Arabic)
Cyrillic is not an abjad as far as I know. I'm a native of a country that uses Cyrillic, but it's possible that I misunderstood the meaning of "abjad".
No, you're quite right. Cyrillic writes vowels, which is the distinguishing factor between alphabet and abjad.
Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#75I just spent a month living there, and while I enjoy the country(food in particular is amazing), internet speed is terrible, and basic developer needs like being able to download a docker image, is like an overnight download ( because the internet will throttle down to low kb/s on such a download). Doing full time startup work from there would require working on something fairly lightweight I think.
I think you used the Internet provider from a different one, which is cheapist one -- whole community share one bandwidth.
My friends in China all use at least 30Mbits connection, now there is a promotion for 100MB for the same price.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Korean's alphabet is simpler than both you listed imho, but that's just my take.
hangul is probably my favorite writing system, but I wouldn't really consider it any simpler than an alphabet type system. Can't speak for abjads, though. Also, converting spoken Korean into text can be tricky for non native speakers (e.g. 맛 is pronounced 'Mat' although the spelling would indicate 'Mas')
for the most part Korean still follows simple rules though. 맛 -> 'mat' only if it is followed by a consonant, so 맛는 -> matneun, whereas 맛있어요 -> masisseoyo.
Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#77You should educate that hierarchy by trolling them with your mighty flock of rabid robots.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is learning tones much harder than learning all the weird vowel and consonant sounds that English has? I'd always though of English and China as examples of hard languages in terms of sounds and languages like Spanish and Japanese as easy in terms of sounds.
> I'd always though of English and China as examples of hard languages in terms of sounds Glad you mention this. I don't think most native English speakers are aware how complex English phonetics are. There are subtleties that only native speakers can distinguish. That is why many not-native speakers mispronounce some sounds. It is not that we are dummy. Our brain is just unable to hear (and produce) the exact sound.
English is a strange language, but I wouldn't say especially difficult. Chinese is much harder to learn because it's so inconsistent between what you're supposed to say and the way people actually talk. In addition to using tones that are very unfamiliar and then you also need to learn the written language which is very difficult and requires a Chinese-Chinese dictionary for strange words like manticore and sometimes you can't even find them.
I'd put English at around Russian difficulty, hard, but easy to get going. English also has the advantage of having a simple character set (less letters than Russian, French, etc) and English also has a ton of cultural artefacts (songs, movies, etc) to sink your teeth into.
My problem with Russian (unlike say, French, which I've also studied) is that I can't even find music to listen to that's anywhere close in production value to English and there are a couple of good movies (Leviathan, for example) but you can only watch them so many times. I don't know of a single Russian TV show that is anywhere close to HBO or Netflix quality. I'd love a recommendation though if someone here knows of one.
Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#79The article doesn't mention that but another possible factor is that life is not that great over there either. If you are not Chinese, you'll always be a foreigner there, even if you spend ten years in the same city, so that makes it difficult to integrate. You'll also have to deal with the Chinese administration for the visa, residence permit, etc. which is quite a pain. It's definitely a great place to visit or eve…
A minority in the US could make that same exact argument...
Only true if you're willing to be ignorant about how poor integration is in most of the Asian countries compared to the US.
Re: China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
#80The article doesn't mention that but another possible factor is that life is not that great over there either. If you are not Chinese, you'll always be a foreigner there, even if you spend ten years in the same city, so that makes it difficult to integrate. You'll also have to deal with the Chinese administration for the visa, residence permit, etc. which is quite a pain. It's definitely a great place to visit or eve…
A minority in the US could make that same exact argument...
> you'll always be a foreigner there
This isn't true in the US, if you learn the language.