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I think there are still a few good forums out there but they're specific to a hobby or interest.
This is exactly right. For electronics, check out http://www.eevblog.com/forum/ For computer hardware, check out https://forums.anandtech.com/
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This is exactly right. For electronics, check out http://www.eevblog.com/forum/ For computer hardware, check out https://forums.anandtech.com/
The anandtech forum is terrible. So much half knowledge and toxicity that even your average tech subreddit is a better choice.
Imzy is young enough to play a pivotal role in the community. Never underestimate that.
However, I found it slow, bloated, very unnecessarily political (in a deeply polarising way, which is bad for something that isn't going to be an echo chamber), and the signal to noise was absolutely atrocious.
I get what they were trying to achieve (and I hope things have improved since I left), but I think there's as much a risk of overestimating what Imzy can achieve as there is underestimating.
However, I've never been somewhere that stays "on topic" so well, so to speak, but then again it's hard to socialize as I don't work in the field and don't have much input that I don't think will make me look stupid.
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Whoops. Well, I guess there's no harm in posting it on HN: lainchan.org
To be frank, I dont take any website with "chan" in it seriously. Think the absolute disgust coming out of 4chan is the reason
Here's is how I viewed this history of collaborative forum information online in the last 20 years Slashdot - aggregating opinions from "experts". allowed comments. Lacked accountability so then came... Digg - allowed crowd source voting. active interaction. complicated and over-engineered upvote algorithm lead to... Reddit - community inclusion. more open voting (and down voting). subgroups. So that's kind of where…
Many of the default subs on reddit are pretty terrible. It seems like as the number of users increase, the quality goes down. Reddit also has a problem with "super mods" who are pretty fast an loose with their powers. These seem to be normal problems with trying to appeal to large groups (lame watered down meme low effort crap) and the effects of power on individuals (bans, shadowbans, bias, agenda pushing, etc)
You get too big of groups or absent or poor mods and things tend to fall apart. Tens of thousands of users is no problem because most users are mostly lurkers anyways.
Quick plug--low odds here, but if you by some chance happen to know the board game Heroscape, have a look at www.heroscapers.com/community for a well functioning, respectful, fun (not modern looking) niche online community. The game has been cancelled for years, but there's still a good chunk of us active. Lots of site activity takes place in various private sections of the site devoted to various projects so you don't see everything happening but the public stuff is representative of how people treat each other there in private.
Here's is how I viewed this history of collaborative forum information online in the last 20 years Slashdot - aggregating opinions from "experts". allowed comments. Lacked accountability so then came... Digg - allowed crowd source voting. active interaction. complicated and over-engineered upvote algorithm lead to... Reddit - community inclusion. more open voting (and down voting). subgroups. So that's kind of where…
Many of the default subs on reddit are pretty terrible. It seems like as the number of users increase, the quality goes down. Reddit also has a problem with "super mods" who are pretty fast an loose with their powers. These seem to be normal problems with trying to appeal to large groups (lame watered down meme low effort crap) and the effects of power on individuals (bans, shadowbans, bias, agenda pushing, etc)
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Whoops. Well, I guess there's no harm in posting it on HN: lainchan.org
To be frank, I dont take any website with "chan" in it seriously. Think the absolute disgust coming out of 4chan is the reason
Yes, 4chan and it's analogues are full of worthless shit and the quality has gone to the drain, but they are also full of different & unique people, some of whom share similar ideas that those of the HN community (privacy, anti-mainstream, anti-corpo, etc; but you can also find the polar opposites in either).
It has in the past also acted as one of the few places with freedom of speech (is there anywhere left in the world now? I doubt it. People with that specific "absolute disgust" frame of mind have made them all disappear: "Let's stereotype a whole community based on a vocal negative minority").
It's also a place not only full of internet history, but also responsible for a big part of it.
In fact, there is no doubt you have enjoyed content, trends, breaking news, memes, etc. that were originally created/generated at 4chan. All other forums/communities have and will continue to pick up content from 4chan & others. Not only lazy, but also kinda hypocrite.
I guess that's the whole point of having these different communities. People quick to judge better stay at the mainstream, where everything is Safe. What you get is something like Reddit, which is now (just like 4chan) completely distorted from its original form and fully bought out, and you have admins (the CEO itself...) changing user's post on a personal grudge. Bravo.