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Re: Ask HN: Great online forums?

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Here's is how I viewed this history of collaborative forum information online in the last 20 years Slashdot - aggregating opinions from "experts". allowed comments. Lacked accountability so then came... Digg - allowed crowd source voting. active interaction. complicated and over-engineered upvote algorithm lead to... Reddit - community inclusion. more open voting (and down voting). subgroups. So that's kind of where…

Many of the default subs on reddit are pretty terrible. It seems like as the number of users increase, the quality goes down.

Reddit also has a problem with "super mods" who are pretty fast an loose with their powers.

These seem to be normal problems with trying to appeal to large groups (lame watered down meme low effort crap) and the effects of power on individuals (bans, shadowbans, bias, agenda pushing, etc)

Re: Ask HN: Great online forums?

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post #5

Here's is how I viewed this history of collaborative forum information online in the last 20 years Slashdot - aggregating opinions from "experts". allowed comments. Lacked accountability so then came... Digg - allowed crowd source voting. active interaction. complicated and over-engineered upvote algorithm lead to... Reddit - community inclusion. more open voting (and down voting). subgroups. So that's kind of where…

The world of online forums is much more diverse than those three. Some of the best forums I've been part of have had very little in the way of voting.

Re: Ask HN: Great online forums?

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post #4

Voat.co seems like a promising Reddit alternative. Less censorship for certain, definitely not shill-proof however. Solving the problem of shills/astroturfers is IMO the most difficult and important challenge in accommodating public online discussion moving forward.

Can you define those terms for those of us who are unaware?

Yes an astroturfer aka shill I would personally define as someone portraying themselves to be a neutral observer/participant when in reality they are paid/sponsored/incentivized by a state, company, or organization pushing a specific agenda. They are intentionally planted to deceive, distort and sway those unsuspecting of such activity. There is an excellent TED talk [0] on the subject.

The problem is rampant and while not new, the recent election cycle has highlighted it greatly.

Propaganda does not spread just from 'fake news' or a heavily biased corporate media. It is co-ordinated & perpetuated online. The links and comments on Reddit and HN are prime mediums to infiltrate and carry this out.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU

Re: Ask HN: Great online forums?

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post #4

Voat.co seems like a promising Reddit alternative. Less censorship for certain, definitely not shill-proof however. Solving the problem of shills/astroturfers is IMO the most difficult and important challenge in accommodating public online discussion moving forward.

Can you define those terms for those of us who are unaware?

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