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The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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I tried it but it didn't do much. I've actually found Kratom, which also works on those receptors, to be a good alternative. You can't overdose on Kratom and when I use it I don't ever get the urge to drink.

So many benefits to that plant, and yet the various state governments have been in a hurry to criminalize it. What a shame that so many people who had been struggling with addiction and finally found an affordable, legal, and ostensibly safe relief in kratom, only to have it taken away without legislators giving it any real consideration.

The DEA changed it's mind after public outcry. I'm buying it again at the local herb shop. (I live in CA.) Yes, it a great help for some.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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I'd say that parent is more accurate and that is the sanitized version...

If you must, I think it is more about the underlying cause versus the immediate cause. Of course you speculate whether he would have been an alcoholic if he hadn't had a lonely childhood and hadn't had someone so close to him that died.

There is no "underlying cause" that can definitely pointed to, that's just hubris. You can't know that if those things didn't happen he wouldn't have still become someone who would drink themselves to death, or that if something else happened, such as becoming devoutly religious, he might have been able to avoid it.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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If you must, I think it is more about the underlying cause versus the immediate cause. Of course you speculate whether he would have been an alcoholic if he hadn't had a lonely childhood and hadn't had someone so close to him that died.

There is no "underlying cause" that can definitely pointed to, that's just hubris. You can't know that if those things didn't happen he wouldn't have still become someone who would drink themselves to death, or that if something else happened, such as becoming devoutly religious, he might have been able to avoid it.

Of course one cannot be sure that it is the underlying cause.

That's what my second sentence alludes to.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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So many benefits to that plant, and yet the various state governments have been in a hurry to criminalize it. What a shame that so many people who had been struggling with addiction and finally found an affordable, legal, and ostensibly safe relief in kratom, only to have it taken away without legislators giving it any real consideration.

The DEA changed it's mind after public outcry. I'm buying it again at the local herb shop. (I live in CA.) Yes, it a great help for some.

Oh! That's great news! :)

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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Well, specialists have long hypothesized that there is a huge difference between "heavy drinkers" (usually in their teens/20s and who quit) and "alcoholics". Heavy drinkers usually overimbibe as part of their social circle (fraternities, etc.) whereas budding alcoholics are the ones drinking alone at home in their teens/20s.

There is definitely a certain class of heavy drinker that isn't a real alcoholic. Some people just like the effect, but get tired of it.

While it's sometimes nice to have a label, I'm not sure how productive it is if people disagree about its definition.

I think it's more productive to ask if alcohol is having a serious negative effect on your life or others. If so, you've got a serious problem.

If you've tried to deal with the problem on your own and failed, then you need help.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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Brit here too. I feel your pain. I'm not a drinker but my parents are. It's getting more and more excessive. I'll find litres of whiskey hone in a sitting. The drink has ruined my relationship with them. When I was a teenager, me and my sister suffered from psychosis. They blamed their drinking on that. When we got better, they continued and found a different scapegoat. My sister is going through children's mental he…

I have no idea whether this will help at all, but after staring at it for a while, I decided I had to try. I think it's VERY likely that a craving for a chemical such as alcohol or various drugs is learned by the brain and shares a property with such things as language learning, which is that early learning plants it deeply and indelibly in a rapidly developing brain--making it essentially native to the brain's struc…

There's an interesting book by Jack London, "John Barleycorn"[1], which is about his battle with alcoholism. He didn't start drinking in earnest until he was 25, though he tried (and absolutely hated) alcohol earlier.

An interesting read, and recommended for one very talented person's view on alcoholism.

[1] - https://librivox.org/john-barleycorn-or-alcoholic-memoirs-by...

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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I just lost my best mate from university to alcohol. Growing up in Britain, this is not my first friend I've lost because of alcohol. I'm in tears... I've struggled with drinking too much myself, this hits very close to home.

I understand your struggle with grief, and would enjoy chatting over a cuppa if you're ever up for it with a bloke from the other side of the pond. If I never hear from you, that's ait too, but am here if need be, young man.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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You aren't alone. Should you ever want to chat/commiserate/pair program, you can contact me through my HN account. I don't have it all, though I have a lot, but I still find myself continuously drawn to a side that defies my own logic. I both glad and saddened to hear that I'm not alone.

Thanks. You are not alone. I meet people like me in AA and get coffee with them. I don't go now because I don't believe the program as designed actually works, at least for me. I also wasn't making connections at my favorite meeting. I may try another.

If you would like, contact me via my email. I think we have some issues in common.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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For some people conscious existence is too burdensome, uncomfortable, full of anxiety, outright maddening or some combination thereof. You see this in everyday life too, albeit in benign quantities - watch a kid after you tell him he can do nothing for the next hour. I had read Phil Katz's story before and I read it again today - it wasn't any less painful the second time around. I think if we were to debug it - ther…

> For some people conscious existence is too burdensome, uncomfortable, full of anxiety, outright maddening or some combination thereof. Reading this gives me immediate anxiety. I have times during the day where just seeing things and being alive is almost unreal, like I can't deal with, and the thought of doing this for N number of years more is overwhelming. As I'm getting older life is just even more surreal, I so…

You're not alone. I sometimes wake up at night, with a sudden realization and shock that I am existing.

Re: The short, tormented life of computer genius Phil Katz (2000)

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One of the most heartbreaking stories of of the tech world, and one that comes with a lot of bad blood. Be sure to watch Jason Scott's documentary clip on the ARC vs PKARC battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiaM5MT1Ok8 I admit that I've always wondered what a dramatic film based on this story would look like. It has all of the highs and lows of a movie, and it would be worth retelling for both the lessons it has…

The linked file is a companion to the wonderful BBS Documentary.
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