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Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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And I was hoping that was referring to this hyper: http://hyper.rs/

Me too, even though I was a bit surprised by the announcement: with the undergoing work around async IO and Futures, I don't expect hyper to stabilize quite soon.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

#132

I'm skeptical of the value of electron-ified applications when fully native alternatives suffice. However, ignoring that, there are a few (pretty severe) problems with this release: * The .deb package seems to install everything in /opt. This seems to be pretty common practice for electron apps and isn't a huge deal, except for the fact that a wrapper executable/link isn't installed anywhere else on the system. As a…

> I'm skeptical of the value of electron-ified applications when fully native alternatives suffice.

Me too, although in the case of terminal apps, they really haven't moved on since the 70s. How many support images? Completion popups? Browsable history? Current directory widget? Collapsible output?

Honestly if it takes some insane over-engineering to get some actual innovation in terminal apps I'm all for it! And when I say "innovation" I mean "obvious features that should have been there decades ago".

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

#133
post #9

Windows support is really appreciated! I just switched from a MacBook to a Surface Book, and the biggest pain point has been finding a good terminal to replace iTerm2. I'll definitely try this when I get home!

CMDER. Thank me later :)

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Windows support is really appreciated! I just switched from a MacBook to a Surface Book, and the biggest pain point has been finding a good terminal to replace iTerm2. I'll definitely try this when I get home!

The bash shell that comes with Git for Windows is the best terminal on Windows. https://git-for-windows.github.io/

I think that's mintty, the Cygwin terminal emulator. It's the one I use, even with bash on windows (there's a variant called https://github.com/mintty/wsltty)

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

#136

This is really cool and it's clear that a lot of work went into it. I've used it a bit and it's generally solid. I've been looking for improved terminal clients for years. To that end, I have a simple benchmark that I run: find / Then repeat the same within a tmux session. In both cases I check to see if I can interrupt the output with Ctrl+C. Hyper on linux under X actually stops rendering the output very quickly, b…

To that end, I have a simple benchmark that I run:

    find / 
Well crap. Years ago during an phone interview for a position that wasn't going to use Python, I was discussing that the current python script was exponential, then I wondered what would happen if I just let it run. It very quickly completely froze my laptop. In VisualWorks Smalltalk, I would have been able to Ctrl-Y interrupt into the "emergency evaluator." Python has nothing like an "emergency evaluator." How uncivilized of it! Interpretation of my interviewer: I am a stupid fake programmer person who doesn't understand exponential time/space complexity. [sigh] -- No I just don't understand why someone would build a tool like that! I guess I was spoiled.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

#137

I'm skeptical of the value of electron-ified applications when fully native alternatives suffice. However, ignoring that, there are a few (pretty severe) problems with this release: * The .deb package seems to install everything in /opt. This seems to be pretty common practice for electron apps and isn't a huge deal, except for the fact that a wrapper executable/link isn't installed anywhere else on the system. As a…

> I'm skeptical of the value of electron-ified applications when fully native alternatives suffice. Me too, although in the case of terminal apps, they really haven't moved on since the 70s. How many support images? Completion popups? Browsable history? Current directory widget? Collapsible output? Honestly if it takes some insane over-engineering to get some actual innovation in terminal apps I'm all for it! And whe…

I really don't think it's all that much "over engineering".

I mean, if you want images, history, tabs, to support every language under the sun, and support for most platforms, I'd say a browser is a fantastic way to get most of that "for free".

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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post #9

Windows support is really appreciated! I just switched from a MacBook to a Surface Book, and the biggest pain point has been finding a good terminal to replace iTerm2. I'll definitely try this when I get home!

The bash shell that comes with Git for Windows is the best terminal on Windows. https://git-for-windows.github.io/

I'm actually using the bash that's bundled with git-for-windows as the shell in Hyper and it works great.

Just kind of pointed it to that bash for easy switch and didn't really see a reason to try and find anything else.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

#139

I'm skeptical of the value of electron-ified applications when fully native alternatives suffice. However, ignoring that, there are a few (pretty severe) problems with this release: * The .deb package seems to install everything in /opt. This seems to be pretty common practice for electron apps and isn't a huge deal, except for the fact that a wrapper executable/link isn't installed anywhere else on the system. As a…

> I'm skeptical of the value of electron-ified applications when fully native alternatives suffice. Me too, although in the case of terminal apps, they really haven't moved on since the 70s. How many support images? Completion popups? Browsable history? Current directory widget? Collapsible output? Honestly if it takes some insane over-engineering to get some actual innovation in terminal apps I'm all for it! And whe…

I agree, and I'm sure that the stagnancy of the plain old terminal is behind this and other modern takes on terminal emulation.

I personally prefer that the terminal delegate just about everything besides I/O to plugins or extensions, so Hyper is probably out of the picture for me. That being said, my current terminal of choice (urxvt) doesn't do much on that front either. I hope that other terminal emulator projects pay attention to the development here and adopt the best innovations.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

#140
post #6

So let me get this straight. This is a mini-webserver written in Javascript running the terminal as a webapp in a mini-webbrowser, right? This makes sense why? On the other hand: My favorite iOS SSH/Mosh client seems to be built on top of this and it's awesome.

I'm excited because that would still be better than the terminals currently available for Windows.
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