Hyper 1.0.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by krat0sprakhar » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:46 PM UTC

kkirsche wrote: post #4

Looks really cool but I'd want to better understand how a web technology console application would fare performance and stability wise compared to terminal.app, iTerm 2 and other console applications. Looks cool though and congrats to the team on hitting 1.0.0

As far as windows performance goes, @rauchg posted this on Twitter today - https://twitter.com/rauchg/status/808353136926593024

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by sdegutis » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:48 PM UTC

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #3

And I was hoping that was referring to this hyper: http://hyper.rs/

Typesafe HTTP implementation? Meh. I go back and forth on stringly typed vs strong typing. Just this weekend I wrote an app in Objective-C instead of Swift, and it's already close enough to 1.0 that I can start using it myself. I originally tried to do it in Swift but the IDE support is just way too lacking and buggy (still!) compared to ObjC. Point being, string-typing and dynamic typing aren't really all that terrible as I keep thinking they are. It gets the job done. Sure, something will always be better. But I've given up at aiming at perfectionism in programming. There's no such thing as The Perfect Language / Paradigm / Type System / etc.(TM). I'm too old and tired to keep chasing that rainbow. Pretty sure the pot of gold's in front of me all along and I keep just not noticing it and tripping over it.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by component » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:49 PM UTC

Zeit team is amazing, thier OSS is examplary; what they've achieved/ing in relatively short time is astounding. I highly recommend their blog [1], an absolute joy to read.

Congrats to the team and all the contributors.

[1] https://zeit.co/blog/

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by cookiecaper » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:49 PM UTC

rawfan wrote: post #6

So let me get this straight. This is a mini-webserver written in Javascript running the terminal as a webapp in a mini-webbrowser, right? This makes sense why? On the other hand: My favorite iOS SSH/Mosh client seems to be built on top of this and it's awesome.

It makes sense because JavaScript has, through several bizarre turns of events, become the language du jour, which means all sort of clueless people are falling over themselves to abuse it in increasingly convoluted ways, so that the clueless people in corporate HR who've been told "We need someone who is a JavaScript rockstar!" can be wowed by the description of some nightmarish contraption that "really takes insane JavaScript chops".

Language fads are very tiring.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by tlrobinson » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:49 PM UTC

I tried switching to Hyper from iTerm 2 and found it a bit too sluggish with no real advantages over iTerm (but I haven't tried any extensions)

I'd probably use it on Windows though.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by jdub » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:50 PM UTC

kkirsche wrote: post #4

Looks really cool but I'd want to better understand how a web technology console application would fare performance and stability wise compared to terminal.app, iTerm 2 and other console applications. Looks cool though and congrats to the team on hitting 1.0.0

Try `ps -afx` in Hyper. Then in iTerm 2. Though I love the ideas behind Hyper, I'm going to stick with iTerm 2 as my daily terminal for now.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by tlrobinson » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:51 PM UTC

cygned wrote: post #5

kkirsche wrote: post #4

Looks really cool but I'd want to better understand how a web technology console application would fare performance and stability wise compared to terminal.app, iTerm 2 and other console applications. Looks cool though and congrats to the team on hitting 1.0.0

I have been using using Hyper kinda since the beginning and eventually switched back to iTerm because it's way faster if you use it all day long. Maybe they improved performance with this version, I will see.

This was exactly my experience. I didn't see any benefit over iTerm 2 and the performance was just sluggish enough to be subconsciously annoying after awhile.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by jredwards » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:51 PM UTC

Why do I want this?

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by acdx » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:52 PM UTC

jdub wrote: post #16

kkirsche wrote: post #4

Looks really cool but I'd want to better understand how a web technology console application would fare performance and stability wise compared to terminal.app, iTerm 2 and other console applications. Looks cool though and congrats to the team on hitting 1.0.0

Try `ps -afx` in Hyper. Then in iTerm 2. Though I love the ideas behind Hyper, I'm going to stick with iTerm 2 as my daily terminal for now.

Also try `yes` in Hyper, see what happens.

Re: Hyper 1.0.0

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Post by angryasian » Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 5:53 PM UTC

dlbucci wrote: post #9

Windows support is really appreciated! I just switched from a MacBook to a Surface Book, and the biggest pain point has been finding a good terminal to replace iTerm2. I'll definitely try this when I get home!

Try out conemu https://conemu.github.io/ for windows. Its great because I prefer to use git bash on windows, and you can default it and switch easily between that or powershell or cmd or WSL