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Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

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Post by kurttheviking »

iopq wrote: post #34
kurttheviking wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be a rare instance that violates Betteridge's Law.

It's not true, sugar is not worse for you than white bread. White bread has a higher glycemic index than sugar. Sugar does have a lot of fructose in it, but fruits have higher fructose content because they have less glucose. Reality, turns out, is more complicated than black and white.

Probably depends on your white bread. My understanding is that any glycemic delta in white bread is primarily a function of the fiber. White bread without fiber is, to a first approximation, sugar.

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Post by mgarfias »

Recently diagnosed diabetic here. Yes, I'm fat, but no excessively so. When I tell people I'm diabetic they're confused as I don't look the type.

What I can say is that I can see the effects of cortisol (stress) on my fasting glucose levels. When my ex does something that causes strife, my glucose levels will be 20-30 pts higher for the next few days.

In general, I ate fairly decently, and didn't consume mass amounts of sugar.

It's my belief, that our diabeetus epidemic is related to more than just our diets. Perhaps our modern living environment is too stressful and makes certain segments of the population susceptible to metabolic disease?

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Post by mads »

I firmly believe that sugar not only makes us fat, but also has an effect on the psychological state of certain people (e.g. people with anxiety problems).

In my own experience, cutting out sugar (from anything else but fruit) and wheat from my diet has made a big difference.

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Post by cyphar »

greywolve wrote: post #21
taeric wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shifting from one culprit to the next would merely further a witch hunt. I in no way want to suppress the search for evidence in this. However, evidence is pretty high that we could cut sugar and have zero negative effects. The largest cut would be in what people are drinking nowdays. (It is truly baffling to see how much sugar the average person consumes from soda.) Consider, unless you are drinking multiple glasses…

Sugar is just an empty calorie, there's plenty of studies that also show that it has no real net negative effect. The problem is when your diet consists primarily of empty calories, then obviously you are going to have health problems, from lack of nutrients. If your diet is nutrient rich, a bit of extra sugar will not do anything bad.

I don't think that diabetes is caused by a lack of nutrients.

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Post by cyphar »

metaprinter wrote: post #29

Unless a 500kg pallet of sugar falls on a person, I don't believe sugar has ever killed a single human. I know that people die from complications arising from diabetes. A quick google search shows that Saudi Arabia has the highest incidents of Diabetes of any country, more than double USA but they are not even in the top 10 sugar consumers. So, why is that? When did their diabetes problems 'start'?

Aside from diabetes, sugar cane farmers (which in many African countries are actually children) have definitely died. If not of malnutrition from not being paid enough, then definitely from the lack of proper safety precautions.

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Post by dlo »

mgarfias wrote: post #43

Recently diagnosed diabetic here. Yes, I'm fat, but no excessively so. When I tell people I'm diabetic they're confused as I don't look the type. What I can say is that I can see the effects of cortisol (stress) on my fasting glucose levels. When my ex does something that causes strife, my glucose levels will be 20-30 pts higher for the next few days. In general, I ate fairly decently, and didn't consume mass amounts…

Have you gotten tested for sleep apnea?

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Post by tcj_phx »

appwiz wrote: post #6

"Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us" ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00985E3UG/ ) by Michael Moss is highly recommended if you want to learn about the prevalence of sugar in processed food.

I listened to this as an audiobook. It has some good points, but the author assumes that all sugar, salt and fat are the same.

Why does the holy war not also fight against flour? Against corn? Should it not distinguish between "vegetable" oil, olive oil, butter, and coconut oil?

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