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Is Sugar Killing Us?

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Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#31
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Increase fats? No biggie, you'll get satiated too fast to overconsume. Increase proteins? You satiate even faster. Increase sugar? You will eat a lot more and your leptin signal gets all sorts of messed up.

That's not true, some people can eat a lot of cheese.

http://www.irkitated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eat-bloc...

Things are not as simple as "don't eat sugar"

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#32

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I'm not actually that young, I'm 33. (I also haven't been training very long, about 2 years now) I agree though, I am a sample size of one. There are forums of people who follow Ray Peat's ideas, and some do consume large amounts of sugar, and do really well.

But think about when people succumb to problems because of poor diet choices: it's not 33. It's more like 65, for heart disease or 45 for Type 2 Diabetes. Not that you CAN'T see differences, in some instances. I look at former classmates from college and they look horrible when I compare myself (and they know it) - but it's mostly from abuse of alchohol, which I think we can all agree will age you. > There are forums…

I haven't heard any reports of people getting teeth issues, assuming they actually look after them. The community there is quite skeptical, and very much for experimenting on themselves, having blood tests taken, etc.

Here's another article that explains the alternative view point on this: http://digestiblekitchen.com/2013/10/confused-about-sugar-on...

Note that I'm not recommending processed foods either. I actually think it's much harder to eat lots of sugar, if you are only consuming it in non-processed foods.

But then is it sugar itself that is the problem?

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

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The verbiage "balanced diet" is begging the question. What is a balanced diet? If it is just "one that works" than this is akin to knowing how to efficiently sort a large array from the definition of "elements are in in increasing order." Well, yes, but how do we get there? That is, at best, claims of a balanced diet resort to existence statements, but never evidence ones. I am not going to claim I eat healthy, or th…

The human body have an amazing ability to adapt to the environment and we will survive as long as energy intake match energy expenditure. The only category that need some attention is protein where having too little or too much can lead to issues. An Inuit from Greenland is no more or less healthy than an American or farmer from Brazil because of what they eat.

Thanks for the heads up, since you've told me that all food is equal I'm going to switch my diet to only include Soda, Doritos and Hotpockets. I'm sure my body will adapt amazingly.

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#34
post #2

tl;dr Yes

Seems to be a rare instance that violates Betteridge's Law.

It's not true, sugar is not worse for you than white bread. White bread has a higher glycemic index than sugar.

Sugar does have a lot of fructose in it, but fruits have higher fructose content because they have less glucose.

Reality, turns out, is more complicated than black and white.

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not actually that young, I'm 33. (I also haven't been training very long, about 2 years now) I agree though, I am a sample size of one. There are forums of people who follow Ray Peat's ideas, and some do consume large amounts of sugar, and do really well.

But think about when people succumb to problems because of poor diet choices: it's not 33. It's more like 65, for heart disease or 45 for Type 2 Diabetes. Not that you CAN'T see differences, in some instances. I look at former classmates from college and they look horrible when I compare myself (and they know it) - but it's mostly from abuse of alchohol, which I think we can all agree will age you. > There are forums…

I know sugar affects my teeth so I brush them after I eat a sugary meal. But a carby meal is just as bad.

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#36
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be a rare instance that violates Betteridge's Law.

It's not true, sugar is not worse for you than white bread. White bread has a higher glycemic index than sugar. Sugar does have a lot of fructose in it, but fruits have higher fructose content because they have less glucose. Reality, turns out, is more complicated than black and white.

White bread is just syntactic sugar for simpler sugars, and destructures into them in your gut.

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#37
post #7

Pro tip: you need a balanced diet. Despite all the recent conspiracy theories, getting rid of sugar while e.g. eating loads of fat is not going to do you good. Downvoters: show me academic papers. Not some tabloid mis-quoting some paper, but the actual paper or at least an abstract. Otherwise you're just being dietary fanboys "SV kids getting healthy thanks to one weird trick"

"Current dietary advice says foods containing high levels of saturated fats such as cream, butter, red meat, eggs and cheese should be avoided because they increase the risk of heart disease, Type 2 diabetes and cancer.

"But a study published in a leading medical journal has found the opposite is true, with a diet full of natural fats improving the health of people taking part."

"The study, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, found overweight middle-aged men who ate high levels of saturated fat and low levels of carbohydrate became slimmer and healthier."

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/742143/fat-is-goo...

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#38
First they thought it was fat killing us, now that they know that's not really true they think it's sugar killing us. I wonder if I'll live to see the day the headlines read "protein is killing us!"

Re: Is Sugar Killing Us?

#40

Unless a 500kg pallet of sugar falls on a person, I don't believe sugar has ever killed a single human. I know that people die from complications arising from diabetes. A quick google search shows that Saudi Arabia has the highest incidents of Diabetes of any country, more than double USA but they are not even in the top 10 sugar consumers. So, why is that? When did their diabetes problems 'start'?

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/business/economy/2014/12/28/...
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