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German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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The currently implicit trade of personal and behavioral data for services such as Facebook, Google, etc. is IMHO a domain in urgent need of some regulation.

Why? Those are voluntary services; the free market can regulate this just fine. It would be different if the government were requiring the use of those services.

We are playing a global game of poker where a handful of global surveillance corporations know our hands to the utmost detail. Good luck ever winning again.

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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The only reason for still using ABP is because you haven't heard of uBlock.

What's the best solution for iOS?

I use Refine: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/refine-customizable-ad-block...

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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As others mentioned on another thread here recently: * lower power/memory use and greater battery life vs. Chrome or Mozilla * being written by a hardware company vs. a surveillance company

Yes, lower power/memory usage equals better battery life at the cost of performance, Safari is not nearly as perfomant as Chrome or Firefox, and to be honest if you're developing the browser is not your main energy drain. Naive to put trust in either companies use of your details

> ...if you're developing the browser is not your main energy drain.

This has not been my experience, but maybe that's just because I use an ancient text editor (Emacs). If my several-year-old computer with 8GB of RAM goes into a paging frenzy, the browser is usually at fault. Emacs may be using a few hundred megabytes at most.

As for privacy concerns, it's your call. Apple sells expensive hardware; Google sells surveillance-based advertising; Mozilla... sells its search box to either Google or Microsoft? I've made my uneasy peace with this choice.

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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Since this submission relates to blocking ads and trackers, I think it's worth bringing up that uBlock Origin [0] is better than Adblock Plus in (all?) ways (see the README for more details). I migrated to it a few years ago and overall I've been very happy with the outcome. I'm opposed to all tracking that isn't opt-in by default. I haven't thought about the topic at great lengths, so there may be cases which I'm fa…

> is better than Adblock Plus in (all?) ways (see the README for more details) That's only if people agree with your ideology. Instead of making blanket statements which are inherently subjective, just explain why you prefer Adblock Plus. Personally, I vastly prefer Adblock Plus. I have no ideological objection to advertising or tracking in general, I just don't want intrusive ads. ABP does an excellent job of filter…

Read the README. ABP sold out a while back and now shows ads on certain websites who pay money to ABP. uBlock Origin doesn't show ads on any website unless you specifically allow it.

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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The only reason for still using ABP is because you haven't heard of uBlock.

Or because you use Safari.

Try native Content Blocking in Safari via Nope or 1Blocker rather than ABP etc.

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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Yes, lower power/memory usage equals better battery life at the cost of performance, Safari is not nearly as perfomant as Chrome or Firefox, and to be honest if you're developing the browser is not your main energy drain. Naive to put trust in either companies use of your details

> Yes, lower power/memory usage equals better battery life at the cost of performance, This is almost never actually the case. In reality, better performance tends to mean better battery due to improved usage of resources.

This is kind of a ridiculous statement.

Not a single category other than energy consumption does Safari benchmark near Chrome, Firefox or even Edge http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/best-browser-internet...

Any of you are free to offer actual data proving otherwise

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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Since this submission relates to blocking ads and trackers, I think it's worth bringing up that uBlock Origin [0] is better than Adblock Plus in (all?) ways (see the README for more details). I migrated to it a few years ago and overall I've been very happy with the outcome. I'm opposed to all tracking that isn't opt-in by default. I haven't thought about the topic at great lengths, so there may be cases which I'm fa…

> is better than Adblock Plus in (all?) ways (see the README for more details) That's only if people agree with your ideology. Instead of making blanket statements which are inherently subjective, just explain why you prefer Adblock Plus. Personally, I vastly prefer Adblock Plus. I have no ideological objection to advertising or tracking in general, I just don't want intrusive ads. ABP does an excellent job of filter…

> That's only if people agree with your ideology.

You don't even have to do that. It behaves exactly the same as ABP if you use the same filter lists. It's just also happens to be more efficient than ABP.

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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> is better than Adblock Plus in (all?) ways (see the README for more details) That's only if people agree with your ideology. Instead of making blanket statements which are inherently subjective, just explain why you prefer Adblock Plus. Personally, I vastly prefer Adblock Plus. I have no ideological objection to advertising or tracking in general, I just don't want intrusive ads. ABP does an excellent job of filter…

Read the README. ABP sold out a while back and now shows ads on certain websites who pay money to ABP. uBlock Origin doesn't show ads on any website unless you specifically allow it.

This was also mentioned in the article. ABP still allows you to block those whitelisted ads.

Re: German judges explain their decision that ad-blocking software is legal

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Yes, lower power/memory usage equals better battery life at the cost of performance, Safari is not nearly as perfomant as Chrome or Firefox, and to be honest if you're developing the browser is not your main energy drain. Naive to put trust in either companies use of your details

> ...if you're developing the browser is not your main energy drain. This has not been my experience, but maybe that's just because I use an ancient text editor (Emacs). If my several-year-old computer with 8GB of RAM goes into a paging frenzy, the browser is usually at fault. Emacs may be using a few hundred megabytes at most. As for privacy concerns, it's your call. Apple sells expensive hardware; Google sells surv…

Can't vouch for your ancient machine or text editor, but writing and compiling on a modern machine with intellisense, the editor uses a lot more energy than the browser

https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~weimer/p/weimer-asplos2014.pdf

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