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CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed to Elect Trump

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Re: CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed to Elect Trump

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Post by MonkeyKing01 »

wallace_f wrote: post #2

The CIA: -Funded and militarized terrorists in foreign countries^6 -Funded Blood and Crips gangs in California through drug smuggling^1 -Facilitated distribution of crack cocaine, contributing to the explosion of crack cocaine in America (The reporter who broke this story was later found to have died to two gunshot wounds to the head. It was ruled a suicide)^2 -Influenced media and created propaganda through Operatio…

In other words they are experts in what influencing another nation illicitly looks like.

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Post by jjoonathan »

lisivka wrote: post #8

Russians are aimed to elect Clinton, because republicans are natural enemies of Russian dictatorship, while democrats allowed them to start war and capture part of Ukraine despite Budapest memorandum.

How, exactly, does TFA fit in to this theory of yours?

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Post by belorn »

beambot wrote: post #12

@dang: Curious to see if the "no political posts" guideline applies to this -- why or why not. > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

The experiment was official concluded two days ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251

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Post by threeseed »

wallace_f wrote: post #2

The CIA: -Funded and militarized terrorists in foreign countries^6 -Funded Blood and Crips gangs in California through drug smuggling^1 -Facilitated distribution of crack cocaine, contributing to the explosion of crack cocaine in America (The reporter who broke this story was later found to have died to two gunshot wounds to the head. It was ruled a suicide)^2 -Influenced media and created propaganda through Operatio…

Nothing you said is relevant nor useful. It's the equivalent of an ad-hominem attack.

What do you have to offer to refute their arguments ?

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Post by beambot »

belorn wrote: post #15
beambot wrote: post #12

@dang: Curious to see if the "no political posts" guideline applies to this -- why or why not. > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

The experiment was official concluded two days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251

It's still in the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed to Elect Trump

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Post by azag0 »

lisivka wrote: post #10
lisivka wrote: post #8

Russians are aimed to elect Clinton, because republicans are natural enemies of Russian dictatorship, while democrats allowed them to start war and capture part of Ukraine despite Budapest memorandum.

OMG. Downvoted to bottom in less than 10 minutes without any comments. :-[ ]

Of all the people that disagree with me, I'm wiling to engage in a conversation with a certain fraction that is closest to my position, because then I have at least some common baseline from which I can start. I belive many people have the same approach. Your comment does not seem to be in that fraction.

Re: CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed to Elect Trump

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Post by CalChris »

dbcooper wrote: post #7

A couple of takes on these leaks, which seem to be at odds with FBI conclusions: https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/12/09/unpacking-new-cia-leak... https://theintercept.com/2016/12/10/anonymous-leaks-to-the-w...

EmptyWheel (good article) is comparing consensus vs formal U.S. assessment (unanimity?).

FWIW, the FBI is one of the 17 agencies in the Intelligence Community and Comey+FBI were definitely tipping the election.

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Post by angstrom »

MonkeyKing01 wrote: post #11
wallace_f wrote: post #2

The CIA: -Funded and militarized terrorists in foreign countries^6 -Funded Blood and Crips gangs in California through drug smuggling^1 -Facilitated distribution of crack cocaine, contributing to the explosion of crack cocaine in America (The reporter who broke this story was later found to have died to two gunshot wounds to the head. It was ruled a suicide)^2 -Influenced media and created propaganda through Operatio…

In other words they are experts in what influencing another nation illicitly looks like.

This is my view exactly. The NSA/CIA/Pentagon are not new to the game. This is what it looks like when it's done to everyday people, the kind of thing Snowden was concerned about:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/world/europe/vladimir-puti...

And it looks like the people working in our US intelligence agencies also get toyed with from time to time. Either that or there is a bigger pedophile ring in the intelligence agencies than the Vatican:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6W8H5Z0XAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf5T1lFyaL4

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