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Belarus finally bans Tor

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Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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post #69

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"buy a $35 raspberry pi and stuff it between your computer and the internet and route all traffic through it through tor? Too many zero days out there in browsers, flash, java, office" How does Raspberry Pi help here? If it routes traffic at IP level, it will be transparent at an application level. Firewall/IDS won't help against zero days either.

Indeed. People are wrong with such confidence these days.

Yes, that's a serious problem. But being wrong in parent's direction isn't so bad ;) Over-engineering and prudence is my mantra.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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post #96
post #67

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The week-long experiment was terminated early. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855

And yet it's almost as if there's been no announcement of this and people still think it's going on. I wonder what the flagging behaviour is?

Sorry I didn't see this earlier (your comment defeated my search queries). Flagging behavior appears to have returned to normal surprisingly quickly.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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post #98

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My position is equal to yours: unless there are facts, it's a fantasy (modestly saying). Moreover, in this particular case there are facts which don't fit into the idea that Russia first experiments in Belarus. For example Russia has a regulation that personal info of user should be stored inside the country (LinkeIn was banned recently for not obeying this regulation). There is no such regulation in Belarus. If Russ…

thanks for the expansion. I would suggest though, that just because they did not try something first this time, would not constitute a proof that they never do, nor even that they often do? > So, it's nothing more than a conspiracy superstition. Well, we do know that state sponsored internet trolls exist and have done for some time. They are not always subtle, but that doesn't mean that they are not very successfully…

They are everywhere

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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post #106

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The idea is that even if the host PC is pwned the Pi will still route the traffic from it via Tor.

If the host PC is pwned then it can still disclose useful information about itself (files, Geo locations, mac addresses) - it will just be routed over TOR.

Totally agreed. I nearly edited my comment yesterday to include this actually.

It is just one potential brick in your security wall.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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post #91

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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/07193917260/no-be... looks likda similar

It's ukaz #60, an internet regulation in Belarus. It's different from the Russian regulation about storing user's data in the country and it confirms the countries progress in regulating new areas, like internet, independently. Everyone looks at everyone's experience, but it's not like one country is a playground for another.

You should read about the Bahamas, the USA playground for cell phone full take interception and then revise your comment. Just because you think things don't exist doesn't mean you're right.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Opening this website in Chrome on my Android device gives me the "ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID" error.

Checking the certificate details, I found out that the certificate is issued to the organization "OpenDNS, Inc." I use OpenDNS's family safety DNS.

I don't think that TOR is owned by OpenDNS. Is it possibly that OpenDNS is MITMing me like previously Avast was reported? But how is that possible? I don't have any OpenDNS software installed that could change certificates.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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post #94

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https://xkcd.com/628/

Really? A cartoon about the Jeane Dixon fallacy is a response? I think you're going to find the next years very surprising indeed. Even now, using tor is de facto grounds for a wiretap[1] And I apologize in advance if my evidence is actually on topic and doesn't have funny pictures. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/12/05/section-702-mohamud-appeal...

back in the day, using a bbs was grounds for a wiretap. (The fact bbs were full of phreakers had absolutely nothing to do with it im sure....)

so they sit, they listen, then do what exactly?

Someone has to read through the material, decipher it, translate it, interpret it. and how exactly do you act on it?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3A_VT9YGA10

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