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Belarus finally bans Tor

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Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by whybroke »

rblatz wrote: post #64
Proof wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from Finlan ld but visting the US, till February and I have a feeling US will watch Belarus very closely to see if it is successful thrn will try to quietly implement a ban or interfere with Tor as best as they can. Rule 41 is a mere Apptizer. The Americans have yet to receive their Entrés. What's even more scary is the radical laws being fought for in Canada as of today.

I doubt it, the US government invented and has been a major sponsor to the tor project. https://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/

Historically yes. But I suggest bookmarking this comment and coming back to it in a few years to see how prophetic or absurd it turns out.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by kbart »

cookiecaper wrote: post #48
imaginenore wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably could do all kinds of things, but is it worth the risk of getting jailed?

Depends on how serious the risk is. You run the risk of "getting jailed" for all kinds of minor crimes that people routinely commit. Are people actually going to get arrested for trying to use Tor? I don't think that's very plausible. You could pretty easily claim it was malware trying to make the connection and you don't know anything about it.

It's Belarus, police and laws work quite differently there.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by dang »

beedogs wrote: post #29
flevo wrote: post #7

I thought we aren't supposed to talk politics on HN anymore..

What a terrible decision that was. Glad it was reversed. It never would've worked.

It did work. The "decision" was to try changing the rules for a short time to see what we could learn by doing so, and we learned a lot. We ended it early because (a) the learning stabilized and (b) there were costs to continuing.

It's strange to me that so many people heard "just for a week" as "forever" and are continuing to comment as if those mean the same thing. The internet is weird.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by breakingcups »

lucb1e wrote: post #63
tomjakubowski wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I was just reading about how non-German residents of Germany use "Kartoffel" (potato) as a perjorative for Germans in Germany. I didn't realize "potato" was such an effective insult it would exist in another country too!

In Dutch we say aardappel (earth apple; means potato) to stupid people, not Germans in particular as far as I knew. It might originate from that, I don't know. Wat een aardappel! "What a dummy!"

I've never said that.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by cgvgffyv »

breakingcups wrote: post #75
lucb1e wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Dutch we say aardappel (earth apple; means potato) to stupid people, not Germans in particular as far as I knew. It might originate from that, I don't know. Wat een aardappel! "What a dummy!"

I've never said that.

You're 20, he's 45. Or he's even more of a nerd than you.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by smcl »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #57
notdang wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From wikipedia: In the Soviet Union, Belarusians were sometimes called bulbashi, a pejorative conjugation of the Belarusian word for potato.

Funny, I was just reading about how non-German residents of Germany use "Kartoffel" (potato) as a perjorative for Germans in Germany. I didn't realize "potato" was such an effective insult it would exist in another country too!

Not to mention that there's a lot of (IMO semi-bad taste, but mostly just unfunny) potato pejoratives + punchlines directed @ the irish.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by clort »

avodonosov wrote: post #62
deepsun wrote: post #54

I'm from Belarus. Belarus laws and politics had been for a long time a playground for Russia. Kinda "before implementing it for all users in production, let's try it on a smaller audience to see if it works or not." So this ban is mostly an exercise for Russia, to get some experience.

I'm from Belarus too. Consider the above a fantasy.

I am neither from Belarus nor Russia and don't know what to think here. If either of you can provide some references to back up your positions that would be great, thanks.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by darkk »

avodonosov wrote: post #62
deepsun wrote: post #54

I'm from Belarus. Belarus laws and politics had been for a long time a playground for Russia. Kinda "before implementing it for all users in production, let's try it on a smaller audience to see if it works or not." So this ban is mostly an exercise for Russia, to get some experience.

I'm from Belarus too. Consider the above a fantasy.

By the way, it it legal to _use_ Tor in Belarus? Is it correct, that Tor should be blocked by ISPs, but user can't be punished for circumvention?

That's my understanding of the document http://www.pravo.by/main.aspx?guid=12551&p0=T21503059&p1=1&p...

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

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Post by mirages »

wruza wrote: post #14
netule wrote: post #10

Is it possible for anyone to share the full text of the post for those of use behind a great firewall? Edit: thanks!

https://web.archive.org/web/20161208223355/https://ooni.torp... Hope you still have access to archive.org ;)

My corp firewall is blocking it for "Cache/Proxy" :p
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