Such bad writing. "get" instead of "drive"? Sigh.
Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
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Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#62Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Killing Turing equivalence is a bigger deal than killing RS-232 ports and floppy drives.
Are there really 9 readers of HN (you and 8 positive mods) who think that neither C, nor Objective C, nor C++, nor JavaScript are as Turing equivalent as any programming language can be said to be whilst constrained in a finite amount of memory? How else could one be said to have "killed" Turing equivalence unless it didn't remain after other source languages were excluded? Melodrama trumps computer science today?
If there's no difference between languages, why not just require everyone to use a Turing machine? It's just as easy, right, because they're all turing-equivalent.
Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#64Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are there really 9 readers of HN (you and 8 positive mods) who think that neither C, nor Objective C, nor C++, nor JavaScript are as Turing equivalent as any programming language can be said to be whilst constrained in a finite amount of memory? How else could one be said to have "killed" Turing equivalence unless it didn't remain after other source languages were excluded? Melodrama trumps computer science today?
Turing equivalence guarantees there's a way to write a program in some other language that produces exactly the same results as a program in ObjC. This deep compatibility made it feasible for the industry to adopt better and better languages. But now Apple wants to put a stop to it and enshrine a few decrepit languages with flaws most of us escaped a decade ago. (As I understand it, JavaScript doesn't belong on the l…
But now Apple wants to put a stop to it and enshrine a few decrepit languages with flaws most of us escaped a decade ago.
Your opinion of the languages does not trump the reality that the overwhelming majority of iPhone OS applications were written in them, as was the OS itself, even when it was not a requirement. Trying to make it sound like recent changes to the App Store agreement are the only reason people use Objective-C is a big stretch.
Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#66I thought Hacker News readers were educated and intelligent but there are so many iTards it's not funny anymore. The Apple Cult ... is depressing. You are little ants who forgot what freedom means. Wake up guys ! Sorry to be harsh but I'm starting to be really angry I'm gonna stop reading anything about Apple/Adobe.
Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are there really 9 readers of HN (you and 8 positive mods) who think that neither C, nor Objective C, nor C++, nor JavaScript are as Turing equivalent as any programming language can be said to be whilst constrained in a finite amount of memory? How else could one be said to have "killed" Turing equivalence unless it didn't remain after other source languages were excluded? Melodrama trumps computer science today?
Melodrama? http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app/
Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Killing Turing equivalence is a bigger deal than killing RS-232 ports and floppy drives.
Are there really 9 readers of HN (you and 8 positive mods) who think that neither C, nor Objective C, nor C++, nor JavaScript are as Turing equivalent as any programming language can be said to be whilst constrained in a finite amount of memory? How else could one be said to have "killed" Turing equivalence unless it didn't remain after other source languages were excluded? Melodrama trumps computer science today?
it was killed for users, not for developers.
Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"
#69I know the author's intent is to weaken Jobs' arguments, but to me he seems to strengthen them. The vast majority of people driving cars never need to drive on country roads. Anyone that needs to drive on country roads is by no means forced to drive an iCar - they are free to choose whatever car they want.
certainly but the question is does the limitation arise from a legitimate technical limitation, or because apple has shorted the country real estate market?