Magic Leap’s technology may be years away from completion

Post by tomjakubowski » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 4:08 AM UTC

pfranz wrote: post #51

monk_e_boy wrote: post #27

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Interesting for sure, but from what I've hear from people using the Rift it's the fixed focus that gives them headaches. I know of a company that make cut scenes for A games, most of their people can't wear the Oculus for more than a few minutes. Big headaches, motion sickness, etc... Before you jump on me, this could be due to the stuff they are trying to show on the Rift -- would content make a difference? Sudden s…

I do vr projects for work occasionally and previously was in film when they were pushing stereo. Content makes a huge difference. On a flat screen the most dramatic space contrast is left-to-right, in stereo it's near to far. If you're exaggerating something you'd use those. It's way more fatiguing on your eyes to focus near to far, than left to right--it also takes like 10x as long for people to focus and recognize…

Post by shpx » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 4:29 AM UTC

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #49

Animats wrote: post #40

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That's not the big unsolved problem with augmented reality. Those are all problems VR systems can already solve with enough money and transistors behind them. The AR big problem is displaying dark. You can put bright things on the display, but not dark ones. Microsoft demos their VR systems only in environments with carefully controlled dim lighting. The same is true of Meta. Laster just puts a dimming filter in fron…

The AR big problem is displaying dark. You can put bright things on the display, but not dark ones. There is actually a solution (EDIT: nope, see replies), but it's tricky: If you stack two sheets of polarizing filters on top of each other, then rotate them, you can get them to pass all light at 0 degrees rotation and block all light at 90 degrees rotation. It's like special paper that adjusts brightness depending on…

Post by argonaut » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:00 AM UTC

gumby wrote: post #80

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #66

Jeez this sucks. I was always behind Magic Leap with the logic that "big investors like a16z google alibaba wouldn't get suckered" but god, :( this is disappointing.

> I was always behind Magic Leap with the logic that "big investors like a16z google alibaba wouldn't get suckered" Here's a few clarifications that might change your thinking about funding announcements. Google Ventures passed on Magic Leap. Google Capital passed on Magic Leap. Sergey was enamored so Google's own balance sheet provided most of the B round. Word is that A16Z put only $3MM in -- basically enough to ge…

Post by socmag » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:27 AM UTC

psyc wrote: post #95

kevinburke wrote: post #8

So VR is hard enough - to avoid jitter that makes users feel sick you have to respond to a user's head movement, render a new frame with the new information the user should see, respond to any button presses, then draw the frame, in under 14-20ms. Magic Leap was always a much more difficult problem... they have to respond to a user's head movement, parse the scene the user is looking at (which could be anything), fig…

I worked on Hololens stuff at Microsoft. It does everything you describe, and IMO does it really well. It's fairly light and is wireless. The tracking is excellent. A lot of the scene parsing is done in special hardware, with low latency. It updates a persistent model of the environment, so it isn't rebuilding everything every frame.

Post by scott_karana » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:55 AM UTC

hoodoof wrote: post #47

I don't want my living room as the backdrop for games - it's kind of a mess at the moment. I want to be taken OUT of the real world to a virtual world. Seems a dumb idea to be displaying stuff onto my living room. Outside things, maybe that different - as Pokemon go has proven.