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Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#52
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is too busy using TOR as a honeypot and offensive weapon to shut down access. TOR actually amplifies the asymmetry betweem the NSA and smaller actors: the NSA by owning the whole network can easily break it, but it prevents smaller players from getting the same access. Of course, the FBI seem to routinely compromise TOR sites they don't like.

Usually via traditional investigative means.

And then they exploit Firefox bugs to drop phone-home malware on users. But so far, it's only been Windows malware :) And it relies on bypassing Tor's socks proxy.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably could do all kinds of things, but is it worth the risk of getting jailed?

Depends on how serious the risk is. You run the risk of "getting jailed" for all kinds of minor crimes that people routinely commit. Are people actually going to get arrested for trying to use Tor? I don't think that's very plausible. You could pretty easily claim it was malware trying to make the connection and you don't know anything about it.

Yeah, you could claim that. Then, they search your computer and find no traces of malware but they find a copy of the Tor Browser Bundle. Now what?

Besides, law enforcement never just "takes your word for it". I've got a lot of friends in law enforcement and -- as far as "suspects" go -- they'll pretty much (attempt to) verify every claim you make.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#54
I'm from Belarus.

Belarus laws and politics had been for a long time a playground for Russia. Kinda "before implementing it for all users in production, let's try it on a smaller audience to see if it works or not."

So this ban is mostly an exercise for Russia, to get some experience.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#55
post #54

I'm from Belarus. Belarus laws and politics had been for a long time a playground for Russia. Kinda "before implementing it for all users in production, let's try it on a smaller audience to see if it works or not." So this ban is mostly an exercise for Russia, to get some experience.

I'm from Finlan ld but visting the US, till February and I have a feeling US will watch Belarus very closely to see if it is successful thrn will try to quietly implement a ban or interfere with Tor as best as they can. Rule 41 is a mere Apptizer. The Americans have yet to receive their Entrés. What's even more scary is the radical laws being fought for in Canada as of today.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because effectively blocking packets at requires supervising all routes through which they might escape (i.e., managing a lot of dynamic rules on a lot of very critical routers), whereas injecting forged packets only requires one little box. Kinda like the Berlin Wall. Easier to shoot people attempting to cross than hermetically seal the entire border.

I don't quite follow. You can't inject an RST packet unless you know someone is trying to connect to a Tor node, so you still need to supervise all the routes, right?

Difference is I can do traffic analysis and RST generation over lots of machines (if it gets slow, worst case my RST gets there late). Changing routes/forwarding table action has to happen on machine moving large data, in real time.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#57
post #30

Can someone please explain the "fried potatoes are better with onion"? Is this an in-joke? A secret key? Many potatoes, -l

From wikipedia: In the Soviet Union, Belarusians were sometimes called bulbashi, a pejorative conjugation of the Belarusian word for potato.

Funny, I was just reading about how non-German residents of Germany use "Kartoffel" (potato) as a perjorative for Germans in Germany. I didn't realize "potato" was such an effective insult it would exist in another country too!

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#58
post #30

Can someone please explain the "fried potatoes are better with onion"? Is this an in-joke? A secret key? Many potatoes, -l

From wikipedia: In the Soviet Union, Belarusians were sometimes called bulbashi, a pejorative conjugation of the Belarusian word for potato.

Interesting, TIL that conjugation is not just for verbs, but that there is a separate and distinct use of this word for combining two ideas (which I guess in a sense is what verb conjugation is).

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#59
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From wikipedia: In the Soviet Union, Belarusians were sometimes called bulbashi, a pejorative conjugation of the Belarusian word for potato.

Interesting, TIL that conjugation is not just for verbs, but that there is a separate and distinct use of this word for combining two ideas (which I guess in a sense is what verb conjugation is).

Generally, it is just verbs. The broader category (modification of any part of speech) is called inflection.

Re: Belarus finally bans Tor

#60
post #10

Is it possible for anyone to share the full text of the post for those of use behind a great firewall? Edit: thanks!

Is it possible to access any of these where you are?

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