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Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by Spooky23 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #38
unfocused wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IT Manager in the Canadian Government here. There is indeed a requirement stating that data must not cross the border. This requirement though depends on the department and level of information security. Whether or not AWS, Azure, etc. can meet this...I honestly don't know.

Yes, for government entities, but the rest of the comments here are talking about businesses, which are going to be the primary consumers of AWS in Canada. There's probably many more requirements that would be needed to be met for any cloud provider to be used for governments. I don't believe any provinces have requirements on border crossing, and there's no federal requirement on data sovereignty at all for private…

They are landing a govcloud there too. So I'd assume a lot of .gov investment.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by dgemm »

richerlariviere wrote: post #48
exhilaration wrote: post #2

For the curious, the data center is in Montreal according to the press release: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161208006034/en/Amaz...

It is located in Montreal downtown

There are multiple sites, and if it's anything like other regions, then one at most would be downtown

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mynameisvlad »

grecy wrote: post #58
mynameisvlad wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, for government entities, but the rest of the comments here are talking about businesses, which are going to be the primary consumers of AWS in Canada. There's probably many more requirements that would be needed to be met for any cloud provider to be used for governments. I don't believe any provinces have requirements on border crossing, and there's no federal requirement on data sovereignty at all for private…

I worked for a very, very big Canadian telco. Same requirement - data must not leave Canada, which ruled out basically all "hosted solutions"

It would be virtually impossible to comply with the never crossing the border as part of a fast link even if you hosted your own data unless you controlled every part of the link.

http://www.servercloudcanada.com/2015/09/canadian-privacy-la...

There are only 3 provinces that require storage in Canada: BC, NS and QC. And even then, that is for public sector organizations only.

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Post by Spooky23 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #35
nacho2sweet wrote: post #25

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I work in education, and in BC we have the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FIPPA) that stops us from using anything good. SurveyMonkey just went and bought a Canadian run survey company and moved all the servers, we had to drop our contracts... everyone is left without anything. We def can't use Dropbox, Google Docs/Drive, anything above Office 2010. Slack is frowned upon even. It is kind of bru…

> Office 2010 Why would FIPPA affect Office versions past 2010? 2013, 2015 and 2016 are available as standalone (non-365 subscription) versions, and regardless of your purchase model (subscription, retail, volume, etc) you can still store documents locally.

Unless you mandate specific configuration controls, most office installations make it easy to accidentally save data to the public OneDrive offering.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by dgemm »

simlevesque wrote: post #19

I'm in Montreal. If I understand, most of the speed boost I might feel will be EC2 instances and CloudFront stuff. Will it have any effect on S3's latency ?

It won't affect latency to any bucket in any other region. But if you create an S3 bucket in Montreal then you should have excellent latency to that.

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Post by betaby »

dghughes wrote: post #77
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #55

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You need proximity to a ton of people to become the Datacenter capital; I doubt Montreal qualifies.

I think the GTA has as many people ~8 million as all of Quebec ~8 million.

No, GTA is ~6M and Greater Montreal ~4 GTA is not that big in terms of population and very sparse comparable with other big metros.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by forrestbrazeal »

This announcement actually broke some code of mine today. I have a scheduled AWS Lambda function that downloads the current EC2 Price List every hour to make some real-time cost savings calculations for stopped resources. The addition of the Canada prices to that file made it just a bit too large for the memory assigned to the function, causing a silent "Process exited without completing request" crash. Good times.

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

skylan_q wrote: post #65
metaloha wrote: post #64

When did Montreal become "central" Canada? Why didn't Amazon call it Canada East instead?

As far as I've ever known, Ontario and Quebec are central Canada.

Growing up in Alberta, people often referred to Ontario/QC as "out east" and "down east." My brother still does that. And many people there seem unable to make a proper distinction between eastern and central Canada economically or politically too.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by amenghra »

mistermann wrote: post #41
faeriol wrote: post #9

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The region should have become the Datacenter capital of North-America... Cold temperatures, Cheap (and renewable) power...

Any idea what would a data center pay per year for cooling? Would it be worthwhile to build in a cooler location where cooling would be free in the winter? And maybe even (somehow) freeze water in the winter and melt it in the summer to provide additional "free" cooling? (Might be a bit of a stretch)

A lot factors go into picking data center locations, ambient temperature being one of them.

Other factors include network connectivity, risk of local government wanting to access data, price of electricity (you still have to power machines, even if you get cooling for free), labor cost to build/maintain the center, proximity to an airport, risks of natural disasters, etc.

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