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Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by ficklepickle »

faeriol wrote: post #53
mistermann wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any idea what would a data center pay per year for cooling? Would it be worthwhile to build in a cooler location where cooling would be free in the winter? And maybe even (somehow) freeze water in the winter and melt it in the summer to provide additional "free" cooling? (Might be a bit of a stretch)

Now for cooling, the montreal region has subzero temps from lateish november to somthing like almost april... Apparently Wikipedia has a half decent article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_in_Canada Not sure about that freeze water in the winter and use it in the summer idea at such a low latitude... But yes, using an artificial lake (or even a real one... given the population does not go bersek about prot…

Water is most dense around 4°C. Accordingly the bottom of a large body like the great lakes is near that temperature year round. This is part of the reason why fish can survive in lakes that freeze over in the winter.

This is exploited in deep water source cooling [1].

Such a thing is implemented in Lake Ontario since 2004.

Very cool imo :)

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_water_source_cooling

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by rgbrenner »

chipperyman573 wrote: post #23
ihsw wrote: post #16

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Shit internet up until recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Internet_Exchange

40GB/s??? How does amazon expect to put an entire region in there and to share the 40GB/s with the other hosts already up there (OVH)?

"averaging 40gbps" != "maximum 40gbps"

Also, qix puts their member list online, and Amazon has a 10gbps port: http://www.qix.ca/en/members/membership

From 2013: "deployed over 180 Gbps of capacity into the exchange." https://www.cologix.com/pdf/QIX-Case-Study.pdf

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mattkrause »

richerlariviere wrote: post #48
exhilaration wrote: post #2

For the curious, the data center is in Montreal according to the press release: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161208006034/en/Amaz...

It is located in Montreal downtown

Really?

There were rumors that it would be in Baie D’Urfe, which is on the southwest tip of the island, fairly far from downtown Montreal. Here's a job posting for "data center security" which seems to be located out there: https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/452269

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by walrus01 »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #10
faeriol wrote: post #9

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The region should have become the Datacenter capital of North-America... Cold temperatures, Cheap (and renewable) power...

> Should have Is there a reason it didn't? (i'm not "in the know")

until very recently the competition for serious backbone IP carriers in major canadian cities (vancouver, calgary, montreal, toronto) was terrible and much higher priced compared to buying IP transit in a place like seattle, chicago, north virginia, NYC, los angeles, etc.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by smathieu »

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #55
faeriol wrote: post #9

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The region should have become the Datacenter capital of North-America... Cold temperatures, Cheap (and renewable) power...

You need proximity to a ton of people to become the Datacenter capital; I doubt Montreal qualifies.

Montreal is the 19th largest metropolitan area in North America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_metropo...

It's also very close to the American North East for data transfer...

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by codingvelocity »

nacho2sweet wrote: post #25
giarc wrote: post #17

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I work for a large healthcare organization and multiple times have seen group messages instructing staff not to use surveymonkey since the data was hosted in the States, and something about the Patriot act allowing US authorities to view the data without warrants or something.

I work in education, and in BC we have the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FIPPA) that stops us from using anything good. SurveyMonkey just went and bought a Canadian run survey company and moved all the servers, we had to drop our contracts... everyone is left without anything. We def can't use Dropbox, Google Docs/Drive, anything above Office 2010. Slack is frowned upon even. It is kind of bru…

There's no reason you can't use one drive through an office 365 subscription fyi. They have a Canadian data residency option
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