I can't wait: C:\Program Files\ C:\Program Files (x86)\ C:\Program Files (ARM)\
Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
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Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
My personal take away from your critique is that the problem is not just the computer. We also need a mobile display solution. Whether MS thinks they have that solved with their coming AR devices or they are looking farther down the pipe, I'm not sure. I think MS's plan right now is to not have a plan. Many of their products point to them thinking that we are at a point where computers are making a fundamental shift…
Miracast is a Windows 10 supported mobile display solution with increasingly surprising ubiquity. You currently can't expect every hotel room TV to support it yet, but a generic Miracast stick (or Amazon Fire stick if you want a branded one) can be obtained pretty cheaply and is small and easy to tote around. Microsoft has a folding bluetooth keyboard that fits in my pocket and is surprisingly nice to work on despite…
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#93Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Miracast is a Windows 10 supported mobile display solution with increasingly surprising ubiquity. You currently can't expect every hotel room TV to support it yet, but a generic Miracast stick (or Amazon Fire stick if you want a branded one) can be obtained pretty cheaply and is small and easy to tote around. Microsoft has a folding bluetooth keyboard that fits in my pocket and is surprisingly nice to work on despite…
Intel also has their Compute Stick devices for people who need a full x86 PC in the same form factor. They're surprisingly inexpensive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Compute_Stick
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's a neat idea, but I think it's an idea ahead of it's time still. There have been docking laptops forever and even that doesn't seem to have taken the world by storm. Probably not the world, but the customers I deal with, surely yes. Laptops with docking station have been my work tool since 2006.
I'm not saying the market doesn't exist, just that it's probably not going to take off. I too use a dock (or port expander) but haven't had a lot of luck since I started moving to high-dpi displays a few years ago. Do you have a laptop that can drive a couple of 4k displays?
However I am yet to get an employer or customer, having 4k displays, or allowing more than one external display.
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree. Most people can get what they need done on something like a Chromebook which have comparable specs to the devices in their pockets. It's more so that the interface of the app, which is based on the screen size of the device is inconvenient. For instance, you wouldn't want to type a paper or do spreadsheets on your phone.
Most people don't write papers or create spreadsheets. Their phone is their computer. The market that Microsoft seems to be after seems small to me. You already can do Chromebook like stuff with a phone and bluetooth keyboard and I do see people using that combination, just not very often. What are the applications that have an interface that will scale well between a 4" handheld display and three 28" desktop 4k disp…
Your data is in the cloud (eg a Word Document in OneDrive on on Azure) and you can access it from a full desktop program on a PC or Mac, from an app on iOS or Android, or via a web browser on any device that has one.
This is a cross-platform vision that works both online and offline (unlike Google) and that ultimately doesn't care which device you use (unlike Apple).
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#97> Microsoft’s dominance in PCs means it’s the only company likely to pull it off at scale. Try they might, but it's not going to work of you don't have another piece of the puzzle i.e. Mobile. Microsoft is so much out of the mobile game, no matter what it's gonna do on PC, it'll not work. The windows phone is dead as a dodo, and they've nothing to show on mobile. It'll take extraordinary efforts to get their continuu…
I don't think you can count Microsoft out of entering a market. They have the capital to startup and launch in probably any industry, including big pharma. I also think it'd be dangerous for Apple or google to count Microsoft out. Furthermore the economist in me wants to see many more options in the IT industry than just 2-3 so adding one more is welcome.
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#98> Microsoft’s dominance in PCs means it’s the only company likely to pull it off at scale. Try they might, but it's not going to work of you don't have another piece of the puzzle i.e. Mobile. Microsoft is so much out of the mobile game, no matter what it's gonna do on PC, it'll not work. The windows phone is dead as a dodo, and they've nothing to show on mobile. It'll take extraordinary efforts to get their continuu…
If your data is in OneDrive, you can access it using anything that has a browser, including a Chromebook.
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#99Internet of Things is and will be running on ARM CPUs, ARM GPUs, ARM Display, ARM Video, etc. Not having your major OS on ARM means you are behind Android, behind iOS, behind Linux, behind IoT and basically behind the world...
Have you seen Windows 10 IoT Core? https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot
Some companies have already been making ARM microprocessors for Windows 10 IoT core for a while now.
This one for example runs it: https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=3707
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#100I'm more than a little confused about MS "mobile" strategy. Continuum sounds like a good idea, in theory. For enterprise I can kinda see it be attractive to just give your employees mobile phones and hook the office up with continuum docks. But it seems problematic in more than one aspect. For starters it's based on the fact that people are going to want to use a windows mobile as their primary device to start with.…
Yes, and this is exactly what they should be doing. In some ways, it is what Microsoft has often done in the past.
Remember Windows Tablet circa 2004? It may have been a complete failure, but it shows Microsoft was looking toward and understood the future. Unfortunately it came at a time when Microsoft was not executing quite as well as they are now (in most areas I'd say - up for debate).
Many comments in the parent thread are about how this will lead to 'sub-par' laptops and 'AR isn't good enough', but they aren't building this for today, they are building this for 5-10 years from now.
It may be released next year (I hope so), but it will take a while for interaction and hardware and possibly social norms to catch-up.
Yes, this is what Microsoft should be doing now. Try 1,000,000 things, get 100 out into the market, see what people respond to. This is what we tell start-ups to do all the time, and we suggest that big corporates should imitate start-ups, but then we bludgeon them when they put out an incomplete product.