I have been expecting a single central computing unit which serves as a phone, docked to a living room computer serves as a media player and gaming console for about two decades now (I believe my first article in Hungary's biggest computer monthly outlining this vision was published in 1998). Eventually it will happen. It's too logical not to.
Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
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Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#82Make this platform "extendable" - a la Motorola and Moto Z Droid - and MS might be on to something. It's silly how much redundant hardware each of us own.
It's then just a matter of apps. If that's dev once for all Win 10, then the future looks bright.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I could never wrap my head around how strategically MS could just let mobile go and not take the fight. Senseless Corporate Priority inversions are most often some combination of internal politics and/or money grabs. I have trouble coming up with use-cases...but then you have a sub-par laptop and a phone. People who prioritize for ultra light weight already have a "sub-par laptop." So what if you could get rid of the…
I dunno, take the Dell xps 13, depending on your specs you have pretty powerful laptop in a 11" format. Compare that against the HP Lap dock ( https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/HP-Elit... ). Expensive and it isn't even a full laptop. I think the problem I'm having with continuum is that it's based on us only using the computer in a few fixed places, whereas the good thing about laptops is that they…
> I think the problem I'm having with continuum is that it's based on us only using the computer in a few fixed places
I'm still holding out hope for a "Surface phone" with a laptop dock. The dock would really just be a battery, keyboard, trackpad, display, and probably a few USB ports.
Re: Microsoft is bringing Windows 10, with desktop app support, to ARM chipsets
#84If the email and calendar apps of Win 10 Mobile aren't are seamless and simple as the iOS apps, it's a non-starter. The current apps look like they're from 1999 and are horrible when you have multiple accounts.
There are probably about 1000 apps that MS would need to make sure are in their own app store for any new Surface Phone to survive, plus continuum, plus "something else".
I personally think they need to dump the tiles and mimic the UX of iOS/Android and just admit that's what people like and are comfortable with.
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#85I wonder what their end user is here. Android is clearly the winner which Windows Phone has lost to. Perhaps they are aiming for productivity based use that requires windows toolsets? Sort of like a Bring Your Own Work Device to work that will inherently tie the worker beyond the office?
If they released a windows phone that connects to monitors and has the basic word processing and web browsing capabilities I would definitely consider buying one. Also as long as monitors and everything aren't very expensive I could see them eating part of the market for chromebooks and tablets
I think Surface Pro + ARM Processor + Cellular Connectivity will be the ultimate portable development environment.
I think bouncing off on your idea of the windows phone, it'd be a crazy win if you at the end of the day, you didn't have to carry a big laptop bag, but you could carry it in your back pocket.
maybe we don' even need monitors or keyboards. it could be VR or AR even....!
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#86I can't wait:
C:\Program Files\
C:\Program Files (x86)\
C:\Program Files (ARM)\
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#87I believe I have a right to computing freedom, and actively try to use free software on my personal computer and on servers I develop on and deploy to. I have EOMA68 laptop and desktop housings[0] coming, hopefully in the spring. I am also about to build a server with a motherboard that is supported by Libreboot[1] and processors that work fine without microcode updates. I use Android phones and tablets, but as long…
Just curious, did you support the Ubuntu Edge effort a couple years back? Why or why not? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge#/ I ask because my perspective is that the convergence effort started a long time ago...perhaps as early as Canonical's original controversial release of the Unity desktop...and these efforts by larger players are more or less followers (albeit higher powered followers with larger m…
Even if the OS itself is free, using the modem requires a non-free blob.
That's why I prefer to keep my phone and PC separate.
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#88So, Microsoft finally solved the Windows on ARM puzzle. Did it take them more than five years to write an x86 emulator, or did they only decide to try this after Windows RT had failed?
On a Microsoft scale, it's always been trivial to write, I think it has a lot more to do with the gap in phone vs laptop performance shrinking significantly. Mainly because laptops have been stagnant. Using any kind of desktop software on a 2011 mobile phone would have been horrible, even if the ARM translation were free.
Doing it well while either obtaining patent licenses or avoiding patents, however, could make it non-trivial.
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#89> Microsoft’s dominance in PCs means it’s the only company likely to pull it off at scale. Try they might, but it's not going to work of you don't have another piece of the puzzle i.e. Mobile. Microsoft is so much out of the mobile game, no matter what it's gonna do on PC, it'll not work. The windows phone is dead as a dodo, and they've nothing to show on mobile. It'll take extraordinary efforts to get their continuu…
I don't think you can count Microsoft out of entering a market. They have the capital to startup and launch in probably any industry, including big pharma. I also think it'd be dangerous for Apple or google to count Microsoft out. Furthermore the economist in me wants to see many more options in the IT industry than just 2-3 so adding one more is welcome.
Apple/Google aren't discounting MS, they just need to control their walled garden and contunuum will be DOA.
MS had time and again failed miserably to gain foothold in mobile, and failed miserably.
MS is like IBM in the 90s, it's past its prime.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think you can count Microsoft out of entering a market. They have the capital to startup and launch in probably any industry, including big pharma. I also think it'd be dangerous for Apple or google to count Microsoft out. Furthermore the economist in me wants to see many more options in the IT industry than just 2-3 so adding one more is welcome.
> They have the capital to startup and launch in probably any industry, They tried that more than a few times and failed. X-box worked, but portable music players, mobile and search would be things they pumped massive amounts of money into and didn't get very far with. But yes, I would like choice above all. I am not a big Windows fan, but Android is really starting to annoy me and iOS (or at least the rules around i…
Bing has 30-40% of the market for search. Remember lots of search engines are just rebranded bing.