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Re: Ask YC: Mac virgin wants to know, what would you install?

#41
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no one has mentioned installing firefox yet. plus web developer extensions. also get VLC for playing video files and DVDs

the only reason to install firefox 2 or firefox 3 is for the developer extensions, namely firebug.

safari is much faster and feels better to use because of the natural OS X interface.

Re: Ask YC: Mac virgin wants to know, what would you install?

#44

Honestly, I would hold off installing a bunch of software until you have a need for it – or at least until you can appreciate the problem it solves. OS X comes with a lot of tools out of the box, and I think it'd be better to stick with that stuff until you outgrow it or are no longer satisfied with it. For example, people will recommend the VLC player, but QuickTime with the Perian plugin is what I use: more stable…

Oh I completely disagree about the Spotlight menu being as fast as Quicksilver for launching apps but even besides that Quicksilver can do so much more. You can: set global shortcuts for damn near anything you'd want to do; add a line to a text file (for quick note taking); send a quick email; move files... And for the Quicktime+Perian vs VLC thing, Quicktime will be decent enough for xvid or divx (though you'll take…

Well, my main suggestion was to use the tools that satisfy the needs you have. Spotlight app launching is fast enough for me. Maybe someday with a larger index it won't be, but that isn't the case right now.

I've never encountered an mkv file, so that Perian doesn't add support for it doesn't bother me.

If Spotlight is slow for you and you need to play mkv files then use the tools you need. But I don't think it's necessary to recommend an M24 tank because it can handle off-road and take out enemy road blocks to someone who'd be perfectly satisfied with a normal sedan for their morning commute.

Re: Ask YC: Mac virgin wants to know, what would you install?

#45
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I installed macports. Before I get to deep into this, is this error obvious to anyone? Note--I do see it's a missing folder, but what is unclear is why I don't have it, and whether it's a part of something larger I'm missing. When I run: sudo port install putty ------------ Error: Target org.macports.extract returned: shell command " cd "/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org…

Sounds like this may be your problem: http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-users/2007-Au... Ryan Schmidt suggests: Please verify whether you have /usr/bin/gnutar. If you do not, then your Mac OS X installation is incomplete. I believe gnutar is provided by either BaseSystem.pkg or Essentials.pkg from the Mac OS X DVD, both of which are quite essential to Mac OS X's functioning.

I appreciate the help. This was a factory install of leopard, so it seems odd that it would be missing components. To google, I go.

Re: Ask YC: Mac virgin wants to know, what would you install?

#47

AIM: Adium IRC: Snak RSS: NewsFireRSS Notes: FreeMind Newsgroups: Unison Misc: Aquamacs, AppFresh, WhatSize, Flip4Mac, Twitterific If you go to Startup School then you should also have a copy of SubEthaEdit installed. It's a text editor for mac that lets you take notes collaboratively in real time.

Why Snak for $29 when you can Colloquy for free?

http://colloquy.info/

Also, if you're a terminal freak and want a good text mode IRC client, I probably don't have to tell you that you can install 'irssi' over MacPorts.

Real hackers use irssi. :)

Re: Ask YC: Mac virgin wants to know, what would you install?

#48

Honestly, I would hold off installing a bunch of software until you have a need for it – or at least until you can appreciate the problem it solves. OS X comes with a lot of tools out of the box, and I think it'd be better to stick with that stuff until you outgrow it or are no longer satisfied with it. For example, people will recommend the VLC player, but QuickTime with the Perian plugin is what I use: more stable…

Totally agree with the "wait til you need it" philosophy, otherwise you waste time configuring and updating software you never use. That said, http://opensourcemac.org/ is a nice resource. And http://opensourcewindows.org/ for that matter.

Re: Ask YC: Mac virgin wants to know, what would you install?

#49
post #11

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Why do you like colloquy? I found it barely adequate.

I find Colloquy is fine (though it has a bad habit of pinning the CPU every now and then...), but there's nothing special about it. I'd switch in an instant if someone suggested a superior alternative. What do you suggest for an OSX IRC client?

If you're a terminal junkie, then try installing 'irssi' over MacPorts.

Love it.

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