Great! Soon I have recruiters popping in while playing Gears of War 4 on my Xbox One. Can't wait!
Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
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Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#32Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#33None of these "TODOs" sound desirable to me...
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#34Microsoft owns my "employee" identity thru office 365. I don't love them owning my "job-searching" identity too. Seems like the most valuable service they have to offer is to corporations. "Want to know how often your employee is updating their resume? Pay us for access." Of course they'll spin it differently, but in short that's the value.
And then they will also use that information to help other companies poach your employees, at best. At worst, the data will be purchased for some sales team to identify and target your company to sign some wildly overpriced long term sales contract. They will know employee behavior and who the key prospects are in your organization. It has happened before. Even I was shocked how tens of thousands of companies handed…
Just a pet peeve, but please re-consider the casual use of the word "poach" when referring to companies hiring employees. It reduces a worker's agency to that of a farm animal or wild game, as if they were owned by their employer and "stolen" away by some other employer. I think we can all agree that we are not the property of our employers, so the word "poach" is pretty inappropriate and I'd argue moderately offensive.
The rest of your comment is spot on though, so thanks for posting it.
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#35• LinkedIn notifications within the Windows action center
• Enabling members drafting résumés in Word to update their profiles, and discover and apply to jobs on LinkedIn
• Extending the reach of Sponsored Content across Microsoft properties
I can't help but feel that the direction they're taking this in will be horrible for the Microsoft experience. It looks like they're trying to monetize LinkedIn integration in Windows…
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#36I can't help but suspect this will be the end of LinkedIn. Why would any firm want Microsoft to have control of so much potential competitive intelligence? As well as the ability to potentially interrupt / snoop on critical communications? Yeah, LI messages aren't as important to most people as plain email, but LI messages are used for a lot of recruiting and B2B sales stuff. Think about it like this: if I compete wi…
You're exaggerating. Microsoft and Google literally own your email, while only recruiters check their LinkedIn messages, most of them being spam.
while only recruiters check their LinkedIn messages, most of them being spam
That does not jibe with my experience at all.
And it goes beyond the messaging thing anyway. LI hosts job postings directly, and has a lot of internal information about all sorts of companies. Now you might say "well, somebody could mine that stuff anyway", and that might be true. But the LI API has some limits and scraping is a PITA.. but now MS has the data with direct access, which makes it far, far easier for them to do something nefarious with it if the urge strikes.
And as much as MS have changed, seemingly for the better, of the past few years, there's still a lot of reason to consider the reasoning behind the old saw "The two biggest tactical mistakes you can make are staging a ground invasion of Russia in the winter, and partnering with Microsoft".
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then they will also use that information to help other companies poach your employees, at best. At worst, the data will be purchased for some sales team to identify and target your company to sign some wildly overpriced long term sales contract. They will know employee behavior and who the key prospects are in your organization. It has happened before. Even I was shocked how tens of thousands of companies handed…
Just a pet peeve, but please re-consider the casual use of the word "poach" when referring to companies hiring employees. It reduces a worker's agency to that of a farm animal or wild game, as if they were owned by their employer and "stolen" away by some other employer. I think we can all agree that we are not the property of our employers, so the word "poach" is pretty inappropriate and I'd argue moderately offensi…
Are you going to suggest a better term?
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then they will also use that information to help other companies poach your employees, at best. At worst, the data will be purchased for some sales team to identify and target your company to sign some wildly overpriced long term sales contract. They will know employee behavior and who the key prospects are in your organization. It has happened before. Even I was shocked how tens of thousands of companies handed…
Just a pet peeve, but please re-consider the casual use of the word "poach" when referring to companies hiring employees. It reduces a worker's agency to that of a farm animal or wild game, as if they were owned by their employer and "stolen" away by some other employer. I think we can all agree that we are not the property of our employers, so the word "poach" is pretty inappropriate and I'd argue moderately offensi…
Use "lure" ... no, that implies that employees are like rodents. Next time try "propositioned"... no that's for whores.
This is tough stuff.
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#39I've closed my LinkedIn account half a year ago and besides less spam from recruiters, my life goes on happily. I don't think LinkedIn brought any value to me or to my career.. I didn't find a better job and frankly I probably don't want the job that someone on LinkedIn is offering. $ 26B / 450M users ~= $57 / user That's how much MS paid for my account. So they think it's valuable, but not for me.
I've got mixed feelings about LinkedIn. On one hand, they're the poster child for dark patterns and persistently trying to sneakily vacuum up and monetize your personal info. On the other hand, and apparently unlike most of HN, I appreciate recruiters reaching out to me and try to answer as many of them as I can even if it's just a polite "no thank you". It's nice to know what's out there even if it's mostly "bottom of the barrel" type jobs. It's also nice to have an easily updatable "online resume". Even if the value LinkedIn provides is $0.01 it's better than a resume in document form sitting on my hard drive which provides me zero value.
I figure as long as I am careful and use reasonable op-sec, using LinkedIn can't hurt, even if it doesn't really help much.
Re: Integrating Microsoft and LinkedIn
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just a pet peeve, but please re-consider the casual use of the word "poach" when referring to companies hiring employees. It reduces a worker's agency to that of a farm animal or wild game, as if they were owned by their employer and "stolen" away by some other employer. I think we can all agree that we are not the property of our employers, so the word "poach" is pretty inappropriate and I'd argue moderately offensi…
Are you going to suggest a better term?
How about just "hire"