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Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Regardless of Job's other comments, the "Flash crashes Macs" isn't FUD by any definition. The SWF plugin is just a pretty bad bit of software. If you don't believe me, check the Firefox crash analysis for today: http://people.mozilla.com/crash_analysis/20100502/20100502_F.... The Flash plugin is the greatest cause of crashes for them on the Mac, and it's pretty damn high on Windows as well.

The claim by the Adobe CEO that Mac flash crashes are "to do with the Apple operating system" is complete and total nonsense (there's nothing in OS X that would cause Flash to be crashy, and the data supports the fact that it's bad on Windows as well).

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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I like the parody but it's not really a fair comparison. In many cases paved roads evolve out of country roads while nothing can ever evolve out of Flash.

Having biked 5073 miles across the country in question on many of those country roads, I can say that they tend to have a certain 'rustic charm' despite all the bumps. The same could be said of Flash content on the web, in 2020. Do we really just want to throw all that content in the trash, never to be viewed or interacted with again?

I already have strawberry pancakes, badger badger mushroom, etc. indelibly etched into my brain. No runtime required.

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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I'm sorry. But Flash has a fallback (HTML5 for the web and iPhone Apps if wanna go native), country roads has not. Also, real infrastrucures are a bit distant than web-infrasctructures. I mean, Google could possibly switch it's search engine from XYZ platform to ABC platform in a matter of months (made up numbers), try to switch road infrastructures of a country.

If HTML5 is a "fallback" for Flash, surely paving is a fallback for country roads. I mean, sure, it's nontrivial to change any nontrivial amount of existing work, but that's analogously true in both cases."

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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I like the parody but it's not really a fair comparison. In many cases paved roads evolve out of country roads while nothing can ever evolve out of Flash.

Of course no analogy is perfect, but I fail to see the relevance of your point. Country roads can evolve into paved roads and content that is currently coded in Flash can evolve into content that is coded in HTML5.

But today, when I want to turn on to a country road / visit a site with Flash, the iCar / iPad won't let me. I, as a consumer, don't care what that ugly/bumpy thing might evolve into. I care whether I can access it right now.

By the way, I own both an iPhone and an iPad, and I like them. It's just that sometimes I wish I could drive them onto "bumpy roads".

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