With no mention of audio/music improvements, I am not hopeful this release will do more than continue down the same path.
Bluetooth 5 Now Available
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Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the range can reliably get from my front pocket to my earbuds I'll be much happier with it.
You earbuds are not low-energy, so no change for you.
Welp. I'm sure it doesn't help that I have Soundpeats QY7 earbuds that I got on sale for OTOH my Sony bluetooth speaker has stutters when I'm too far away in a 1-br apartment, so who knows.
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#432x the speed. 4x the range. 8x the capacity "to send messages" Not using the x.x versioning anymore. Just Bluetooth 5 and the next will be 6. Also, apprently, there's 30.000 companies in the 'Bluetooth Special Interests Group' ? [Thanks Krasin, gerardnll for correcting me]
It's important to note that these improvements only apply to BLE. Classic Bluetooth (EDR) is not changing, at least not significantly. Also, there will continue to be minor spec revisions (5.1, 5.2, etc). The "Bluetooth 5" terminology is for marketing and PR, to simplify the message. They don't want to confuse the general public with spec revisions.
> They don't want to confuse the general public with spec revisions.
I'd say its about 13 years too late to start worrying about that
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think we'd need an RF engineer to answer this more thoroughly, but it's my understanding that there are a lot of materials capable of absorbing the low-energy microwaves that it uses as its transmission medium. Water is a big one, which I think is one reason that having my phone in my back pocket almost always results in a dropped connection to my headphones over the course of working outside for a few hours, compa…
Hi! RF Engineer here. Bluetooth sucks for a number of reasons, only a few of which actually relate to RF. First, we're bad at naming things. Is it BLE? Bluetooth Smart? BTLE? Bluetooth 4.0, or Bluetooth 4 Low Energy? And what does this have to do with ANT+? This doesn't seem to be a big problem, but it's a sign of deeper problems with the spec. In the long run it makes it very difficult for developers to implement. B…
FYI, Orion Labs claims that they do audio over Bluetooth LE for their Onyx microphone device.
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#45Wait. What? I'm still waiting for reasonable adoption of 4 (re:BLE) ...
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#46Seeing a new Bluetooth version is like being a fan of a perennially losing sports team. You hope that "Maybe this is year they finally get it together!", but deep down you know they won't. The three certain things in life are death, taxes, and Bluetooth being flaky.
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#47Here is the Core v5 Spec PDF (26mb with 2822 pages) https://www.bluetooth.org/DocMan/handlers/DownloadDoc.ashx?d...
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#48As someone who is building an applied AI hardware product, what can we expect from BT5 ? > Key feature updates include four times range, two times speed, and eight times broadcast message capacity. Longer range powers whole home and building coverage, for more robust and reliable connections. Higher speed enables more responsive, high-performance devices. Increased broadcast message size increases the data sent for i…
Keep an eye out for this. Should be available very soon
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#49Why is general bluetooth connectivity so "buggy"? Why am I always struggling connecting my iPhone 6s to my bose bluetooth speaker? I would love to understand that.
In my experience, connecting a device with bluetooth has less than 50% chance of continued success. When it doesn't work it really doesn't work, and there's only so much you can do with most device interfaces. I avoid it whenever possible. Hopefully this new release will change that for future devices.
Yep, I wanted to love Bluetooth for keyboards, but my Logitech and Microsoft wireless keyboards (work and home, respectively) work great with their proprietary receivers (basically like a wireless wire), while the Logitech K810 has random key lag and connectivity issues (try typing your password when Bluetooth doesn't work and you can't log in to re-pair it).
Windows 10 also seems monumentally bad at Bluetooth, and I've tried with a few different Bluetooth dongles with different chipsets. I've had the best luck with the one from Pluggable, which IIRC uses a Cambridge Silicon radio / driver stack. I really wish we had wireless serial instead of wireless USB, as most of the time, that's basically what I want, and stuff like the ESP, nRF24*, or even RFM69 does this quite well. I honestly wish they'd do a 433/900mhz standard for wireless HID only, and another for audio only.
OTOH, I have a Logitech Megaboom which always works amazingly well. Whoever did the Bluetooth radio on that...A+ .
Re: Bluetooth 5 Now Available
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think we'd need an RF engineer to answer this more thoroughly, but it's my understanding that there are a lot of materials capable of absorbing the low-energy microwaves that it uses as its transmission medium. Water is a big one, which I think is one reason that having my phone in my back pocket almost always results in a dropped connection to my headphones over the course of working outside for a few hours, compa…
Hi! RF Engineer here. Bluetooth sucks for a number of reasons, only a few of which actually relate to RF. First, we're bad at naming things. Is it BLE? Bluetooth Smart? BTLE? Bluetooth 4.0, or Bluetooth 4 Low Energy? And what does this have to do with ANT+? This doesn't seem to be a big problem, but it's a sign of deeper problems with the spec. In the long run it makes it very difficult for developers to implement. B…
You worked on BT specs ? BT seems an acute case of design by comittee. It's huge, full of profiles and corners. Nobody implements it really well, everything moves before it's finished. Makes you dream of wires some times.