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Pebble's next step

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Re: Pebble's next step

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post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is, it's called "Chinese OEM manufacturers". > (Yes, I know that an 'OEM manufacturer' is like an 'ATM machine'.) OEM means "Original Equipment Manufacturer".

Yeah, he mentioned that in his post, in the part you quoted.

You're missing my point.

"OEM manufacturer" would mean "original equipment manufacturer manufacturer".

Re: Pebble's next step

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post #63

I'll trade my refund for a postmortem.

I'd love to know what the ratio of incompetence to malice was.

The smartwatch market pretty much tanked in 2016. Apple just sold a record number of Apple watches but even they were down for the most of year. There just wasn't enough runway for Pebble to keep running; they even laid off 25% of their staff earlier in the year.

Re: Pebble's next step

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post #226

Tldr: FitBit acquires( ) bankrupt pebble, lays of 60% of staff, cancels all pebble product lines. FitBit also cancels the warranties on already sold pebbles. FitBit may also have stiffed some holders of $27m of pebble's debt. ( ) due to legal shenanigans we must not call this an acquisition or an acqui-hire. Also, FitBit didn't do those things, a shell company created by this deal did, which is totally different some…

This couldn't be further from the truth: Pebble is going under, and Fitbit is buying up their software IP before they do. Fitbit didn't buy the company or acquire the employees. They aren't shutting down Pebble's product lines, or canceling the warranties (Pebble's doing that). And they didn't acquire the people, rather offered them jobs:

"Fitbit began sending job offers to about 40 percent of Pebble’s employees in the last week. Most of these are software engineers."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-07/pebble-sa...

Re: Pebble's next step

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post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? As founder he held common stock, which would be worthless now.

There are lots of ways around that. His stock is worthless, sure, but he probably has something else, whether it's a huge retention bonus (cash or Fitbit stock, which is public and can be sold), an executive-level salary at Fitbit, or some combination of the two. There's also the possibility that he sold some of his equity to investors for cash earlier on. EDIT: I was wrong, he is joining YC. Thank you for pointing t…

He's not at Fitbit. He's joining YC.

Re: Pebble's next step

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One thought: FitBit's customer service with me has been nothing but exceptional from start to finish, and is the reason I have bought several for family members. I would hope that FitBit would recognize the loyalty they create based on this quality of service could be magnified by grandfathering Pebble's various services and by maintaining them, while helping Pebble users to transition at their convenience. This woul…

Fitbit doesn't own any of the services so they can't maintain them even if they wanted to.

Re: Pebble's next step

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post #29

I am so sad about this. I had told myself that at least I'd get a Time 2 and a Core, and stave myself off before the sadness hits again that Pebble is gone. Pebble's products were an excellent example of lateral technology. No need for high DPI on your watch, because they made something that looks good with few pixels. Making battery life a priority in a world of WiFi-enabled pressure cookers. Even when the battery r…

> I think these watches are better than anything else out there

I'm not sure about that. I read some comments on a few other articles about the Pebble shutdown, and people are recommending the Vector Watch [1]. It's a smart watch with a monochromatic e-ink display, and it has a 30 day battery life.

[1] http://vectorwatch.com/

Re: Pebble's next step

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post #266

Well, this sucks. I really don't want a fitbit - I like the pebble formfactor and legit use it as a notifier. If I wanted a fitness tracker, I'd get a $15 pedometer. I backed and received a pebble2 to replace my pebble1. (as a Under some circumstances, I'd be fine just ignoring the acquisition and continuing to use my p2. The real problem is when the pebble integrations stop working. If that happens in a few months,…

Interesting, except for #2, the Fitbit Surge seems to meet all of those (might be slightly short on #4.) From what I hear, the Fitbit Blaze (basically a color screen Surge without independent GPS so that a phone is needed for location) actually has a hit longer battery life in normal use.

The Surge seemed to clearly indicate that they were interested in doing more than trackers, the Blaze seems to indicate that they realize that prioritizing what people want in a smartwatch over things that make sense in aprimarily fitness tracker is going to be important to a large segment of the market.

So, I wouldn't be surprised to see a near-future Fitbit that ticks all your boxes.

Re: Pebble's next step

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If FitBit wants current Pebble users to be their future customers, they should definitely consider not making current Pebble devices useless. I understand this is not a trivial task, but it looks like FitBit mostly acquired Pebble's software engineers. So it would nice to see a new FitBit flavored OS update for Pebbles. The hardware is there, it just needs the software support. Pebble hardware with FitBit health/fitn…

Fitbit didn't buy Pebble; they don't own any of the services and they certainly cannot update the firmware for devices that belong to a different company. They just bought the software and maybe hired a few engineers (although I imagine a lot of jumped ship; I know at least one is going to Intel instead).

Pebble will survive on the ingenuity of the community, not support of any company. Assuming anyone takes up the task.

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